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re: Forbes America's Best Colleges
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:09 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:09 pm to phil4bama
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You shut your whore mouth, George! I've benefited from that system. I'm OOS and my daughter pays nearly the same as an in-state kid because she busted her arse and had a 4.6 GPA and an SAT score north of 1400. She loves Alabama and won't have shitloads of student loan debt when she gets out, thanks to that system.
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I love having some out of state presence at the University. I think it's been good for everyone. I don't love it being ratcheted up to almost 60% of the undergraduate population for going on 5-10 years now.
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I'm even more amazed at the OOS kids from far away that come and have to pay the OOS amount because the DON"T have a scholarship, but they come anyway.
Or even those from close who are OOS who want to go there and would have in the past for a slight increase in tuition compared to in-state, but nothing astronomical. Now it costs the same to go to Alabama OOS as it used to cost to go to Vanderbilt or an Ivy school.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Now it costs the same to go to Alabama OOS as it used to cost to go to Vanderbilt or an Ivy school.
Yet they still come here in droves. The University is doing something right
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I love having some out of state presence at the University. I think it's been good for everyone. I don't love it being ratcheted up to almost 60% of the undergraduate population for going on 5-10 years now.
Spoke to a guy a few years ago at an Economic conference who was on the board of alumni for the school of Engineering at Alabama. He told me he expected Alabama to shift away from its emphasis on growing enrollment through out of state kids... basically said the plan which had been in place for a decade or more had not produced the results the school had hoped it would. He said too often kids were coming to Bama... Having a great 4 years... but then they headed back to where they came from... many not putting much thought into where they went to school within a few years.
Sure enough... Bama's number of incoming new undergrad students has been shrinking since its peak back in 2016:
2016: 7,559
2017: 7,407
2018: 6,663
2019: 6,764
2020: 6,507
And with that, so has the percentage of out of state kids:
2016: 68.1%
2017: 67.5%
2018: 65.9%
2019: 62.6%
2020: 58.5%
Sure enough... incoming new undergrads in 2016 totaled 5,089.... in 2020 that number was down to just 3,772. Meanwhile the number of in-state new undegrads increased from 2,412 up to 2,701 during the same period.
It's obvious Bama is retreating from their plan which seemed to start kicking in back around 2005 or 2006.
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