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re: SEC turns down Clempson and FSU?

Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:05 pm to
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:05 pm to
Here is the problem with future expansion..

Each SEC school will be making about $60 million per year in 2022 and about $75 million per year in 2025 & forward. In order to bring two teams in, they would have to be worth a combined $150 million per year just to keep everyone at the 2025 payout.

Is it worth it to add more teams without an increase in payout? I’m assuming the answer is no, but perhaps there are other factors in play there.

Realistically, I would think the SEC would only do it for an increased payout. 10% seems reasonable.. $7.5 million x 18 teams = $135 million extra

That would mean the two new teams needed to be worth $285 million or more combined.

There are likely only four teams that could bring that kind of value..

Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Michigan

One or more of those paired with Clemson and/or Florida State might get there.. but likely not just the two of them by themselves.

Just my opinion.
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
Member since May 2019
1480 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Notre Dame
Their TV contract with NBC runs thru 2025.

If I was Disney, this is what I would do. Taking schools out of the ACC and moving them to the SEC is just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2771 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:22 pm to
Clemson without Dabo is Georgia Tech. Dabo is leaving to become Saban’s replacement. A .500 SEC Clemson is a poor investment. Michigan, Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, and Penn State are the only brands I think that are a forever draw beyond their coach.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7829 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

There are likely only four teams that could bring that kind of value..

Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Michigan


This plus Penn State. Clemson and FSU do not bring anything that the SEC doesn't already have.
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Catsfan159
Louisville, KY
Member since Sep 2017
597 posts
Posted on 8/2/21 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Here is the problem with future expansion..

Each SEC school will be making about $60 million per year in 2022 and about $75 million per year in 2025 & forward. In order to bring two teams in, they would have to be worth a combined $150 million per year just to keep everyone at the 2025 payout.

Is it worth it to add more teams without an increase in payout? I’m assuming the answer is no, but perhaps there are other factors in play there.

Realistically, I would think the SEC would only do it for an increased payout. 10% seems reasonable.. $7.5 million x 18 teams = $135 million extra

That would mean the two new teams needed to be worth $285 million or more combined.

There are likely only four teams that could bring that kind of value..

Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Michigan

One or more of those paired with Clemson and/or Florida State might get there.. but likely not just the two of them by themselves.

Just my opinion.



Please say more of your fanbase is like you and not like a majority of the folks we saw last week. It's always nice to see people who seem to do their research.

That being said, I really hope we don't expand again, because we'll just split off into divisions/"pods" and essentially find ourselve dealing so many that it would a scheduling nightmare. What's the point of having a super conference of 18 or 20 teams if you are only going to see some of those teams every 3 or 4 years? I get the money aspect of it, but damn... 16 is enough
This post was edited on 8/2/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31427 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Here is the problem with future expansion..

Each SEC school will be making about $60 million per year in 2022 and about $75 million per year in 2025 & forward. In order to bring two teams in, they would have to be worth a combined $150 million per year just to keep everyone at the 2025 payout.

Is it worth it to add more teams without an increase in payout? I’m assuming the answer is no, but perhaps there are other factors in play there.

Realistically, I would think the SEC would only do it for an increased payout. 10% seems reasonable.. $7.5 million x 18 teams = $135 million extra

That would mean the two new teams needed to be worth $285 million or more combined.

There are likely only four teams that could bring that kind of value..

Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Michigan

One or more of those paired with Clemson and/or Florida State might get there.. but likely not just the two of them by themselves.

Just my opinion.


this is what all of this is about, but you forgot 1 thing, the SEC itself gets an equal share. so its actually currently 17 shares when Tx/OU join.

the comment about streaming is because, traditional viewership is coming to an end in the next 10-15 years. No longer will things like Directtv or dish or cable tv exist in its current format. Direct will not be able to say they are charging $3 for person living in the SEC footprint adn only $1 for those outside.

it will be al a carte and most will be subscription streaming services. Think about the difference in TV viewership habits and internet habits from 2005 until present day.....totally different and there will continue to be seismic shifts to streaming only.
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