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re: Per capita, Louisiana is producing the most NFL skill/speed talent, and by a large margin

Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 6:35 pm to
No, per capita is a valid measurement. Most Statistical analysis is done that way. Your point about Florida retirees and population growth their does not mean that population growth is limited to just retirees. So using population to scale it tells me something about how football is valued in a state.

I did not say it was the only way to measure it, standardizing by Football participation rates is good as well but it also has limitations. But Participation rates also have problems as participation rates vary across States and thus reflect a self-selection problem. So the ratios of State A vs. B reflect a Self-selection problem where Population rates do not. Population as the scaler does not reflect self-selection bias as much as HS participation rates, although yes people can move to State A vs. State B.

Still the ratio of NFL talent in Numerator to total population (Denominator) is not a bad measure.

Posted by RD Dawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:22 pm to
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No, per capita is a valid measurement. Most Statistical analysis is done that way


It's completely different other per capita analysis because your dealing with a specific subset of the population compared to the rest of the population that can't or won't ever be counted.

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standardizing by Football participation rates is good as well but it also has limitations. But Participation rates also have problems as participation rates vary across States and thus reflect a self-selection problem.


It's a far better metric and OF COURSE the vary from state to state...its the entire point.

I did find a PDF from the National High School Participation survey. It breaks down per state but I'm unable to copy right now but it did confirm that participation rates were higher in Alabama,Mississippi and Louisiana than Florida and Georgia.I'll edit later with the numbers they publish and try to copy the link...currently I'm able to do so on my phone.

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FOOTBALL
CROSS COUNTRY 11-PLAYER GOLF GYMNASTICS
State Schools Participants Schools Participants Schools Participants Schools Participants
Alabama 258 3,804 386 32,366 288 1,690
Alaska 83 1,003 30 1,564
Arizona 237 3,507 209 16,498 195 1,634
Arkansas 171 1,862 201 10,255 214 1,211
California 1,354 31,880 1,069 91,305 1,015 11,023 3 5
Colorado 247 4,122 222 15,593 196 2,167
Connecticut 174 4,038 144 9,017 55 1,589
Delaware 51 1,060 45 2,843 44 334
Dist. of Columbia 33 505 29 1,456 18 133
Florida 597 8,709 594 40,361 509 4,188
Georgia 422 8,213 415 31,904 389 3,084
Hawaii 68 1,160 54 4,310 52 354
Idaho 115 1,998 88 6,482 102 1,061
Illinois 523 11,320 535 38,366 497 7,322 52 1,338
Indiana 398 5,592 323 20,344 356 3,544
Iowa 326 5,619 266 15,984 332 4,896
Kansas 301 3,857 224 12,586 246 2,633
Kentucky 244 3,157 221 13,033 237 1,934
Louisiana 317 2,928 304 19,629 240 935 38 31
Maine 106 1,343 84 3,207 95 975
Maryland 187 3,741 181 12,146 154 1,392
Massachusetts 313 7,127 328 18,019 289 4,212 8 117
Michigan 634 9,588 572 33,868 504 6,136
Minnesota 410 7,568 345 23,185 370 5,495
Mississippi 166 1,810 244 22,440 178 2,290
Missouri 428 5,863 348 19,951 329 3,981
Montana 124 1,223 78 3,476 115 907
Nebraska 245 3,348 153 8,579 243 2,585
Nevada 87 1,195 74 6,678 78 766
New Hampshire 73 1,084 58 3,120 63 786
New Jersey 373 8,491 343 22,515 288 3,690
New Mexico 117 1,552 98 6,061 79 645
New York 583 9,927 502 27,652 543 6,583 42
North Carolina 390 6,268 377 26,969 361 2,828
North Dakota 105 774 82 2,903 122 895
Ohio 738 12,912 718 39,794 690 7,496 15
Oklahoma 296 3,406 257 13,132 218 1,730
Oregon 226 4,076 196 11,140 162 1,464
Pennsylvania 572 11,440 567 25,515 515 5,150
Rhode Island 45 999 42 2,690 37 395
South Carolina 180 3,550 205 17,789 157 1,541
South Dakota 151 1,037 66 3,133 136 971
Tennessee 334 4,066 367 20,920 309 2,357
Texas 1,481 26,068 1,317 165,641 1,340 14,163
Utah 132 3,792 106 8,596 120 1,543
Vermont 30 403 22 993 24 179 3 32
Virginia 304 6,282 307 22,526 288 2,405
Washington 317 7,332 299 18,348 284 3,196
West Virginia 102 1,140 113 5,551 106 880
Wisconsin 418 6,949 388 23,154 370 5,316
Wyoming 46 607 51 2,426 38 516


Haven't cross referenced vs population but in order it looks like Mississippi followed Alabama,Louisiana,Georgia then Florida (pretty wide margin) as far as participant vs population
This post was edited on 5/5/21 at 9:03 am
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