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re: OT- Let your state reps know how you feel

Posted on 12/4/20 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 2:33 pm to
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what video are you referring to


There was a GA senate hearing yesterday with a bunch of Trump lawyers. The night before, they finally got access to the State Farm Arena surveillance videos of the counting room there. The video clearly showed that all watchers/monitors and most employees were sent home because of a "water main break" and that counting would resume the next day. But four people stayed back. They pulled out boxes of thousands of ballots from under a table, not from the larger pile of boxes of ballots that workers had been pulling from all day, these were special in some way. They proceed to jam them into the scanners for hours. All of which isn't just unethical, but violates state law. Even if every ballot they counted was legit, it's still against state law to count them with no monitors present.

It's the smoking gun that people have been asking for.

The water main break never happened. It turned out to be a leaky toilet in the building. It was all bullshite, to get people out, so they could illegally count thousands of ballots.

And this is just the fraud we have on video, undisputable. It suggests there was much much more fraud that wasn't captured on video. But there are forensic methods to audit this... unless other state laws were broken by deleting logs from the machines.

It's not even about Trump v Biden at this point.. it's about election integrity and the future of this country. At best, Trump somehow gets re-elected because all the bullshite votes get thrown out in multiple states. At worst, a lot of people are going to jail for massive fraud. This election will forever have an asterisk on it, like many things in 2020.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 2:57 pm to
The fact checking in this article seems pretty reasonable on the surface. I'm not claiming one way or the other, but if people who know what election process is supposed to look like (including Republicans) don't see anything suspicious, why am I a layperson when it comes to election/ballot counting supposed to ignore them and trust Trump's team.

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Gabriel Sterling, a Republican and Georgia's voting system implementation manager, told Lead Stories during a phone call on December 3, 2020 that what can be seen on the video is normal procedure and nothing looks "bizarre or odd."

Election workers known as "cutters" because their job was to open absentee ballot envelopes and verify ballots for eventual scanning and counting were dismissed for the night sometime after 10 p.m. on November 3, 2020, because their work for the evening had been completed, he explained. Those workers who remained were responsible for conducting the scanning portion of the process, since ballots could not be left without being scanned overnight.

Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state, told Lead Stories during a phone call on December 3, 2020, that the ballots were in standard containers, and the work during the time in question had nothing to do with pulling ballots from under a table. She said:

There wasn't a bin that had ballots in it under that table. It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table.

There was never an announcement made to the media and other observers about the counting being over for the night and them needing to leave, according to Watson, who was provided information by the media liaison, who was present. She said they just followed the "cutters" as they left.

Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do. And It was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working.

In addition, she explained that the only ballots that were scanned after the media and other observers had left were those that had already been opened in front of these observers.

Contrary to the claim, the ballots were not in suitcases, she said. The black boxes and bins seen in the video are the standard container used for the ballot counting process.

A state election board monitor, who asked for his name not to be used due to safety concerns, told Lead Stories on the phone on December 3, 2020, that he was present at the vote counting location beginning at 11:52 p.m., after leaving briefly at earlier in the evening. He then stayed until about 12:45 a.m., when the work that night was completed.



Section § 21-2-408 of the Code Of Georgia, which addresses poll watchers, explains that political bodies and parties are "entitled" to have official poll watchers. The secretary of state's chief counsel told Lead Stories it was not a requirement that observers be present for counting to continue -- only that it is their right to be there is they choose.
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