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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:11 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:11 pm to The Spleen
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Well, I think the war propaganda posters are a completely different thing. I was talking more of using the state's rights argument as a pretext for secession, which lead to the war. Certainly the Confederate leaders played up the "northern invasion" angle to get volunteers to defend their state. The states rights argument as a pretext for secession didn't really come about until the early 1900's, and was promulgated by the Daughters Of the Confederacy, mainly.
Now, I can look back and admit the slavery issue was a states rights issue. But I think slavery was THE sole reason for secession, and bringing up states rights is an effort to obfuscate that fact.
I agree but also believe reconstruction is the main reason for the issues of racism we deal with today.
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:14 pm to TideWarrior
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I agree but also believe reconstruction is the main reason for the issues of racism we deal with today.
Change racism to race relations and I completely agree.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 2:34 pm to TideWarrior
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I agree but also believe reconstruction is the main reason for the issues of racism we deal with today.
I would agree if we're talking about all aspects of Reconstruction. It's a bit of a cop out to excuse away the actions of Southerners during Reconstruction as just responding to how Reconstruction was administered. They already had hatred in their heart for blacks, and a "softer" Reconstruction wasn't likely to change the majority of those feelings.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 3:08 pm to TideWarrior
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I agree but also believe reconstruction is the main reason for the issues of racism we deal with today.
I'm not sure how different approaches to Reconstruction would have achieved any degree of racial harmony, or at least set the South on a course to achieve it. White Southerners were suddenly being asked to hold as equals the people they had, for generations, seen as property. Any measures, no matter how benign, enacted to advance civil rights and equality for former slaves were bound to be fiercely resisted. The war was the point of no return as far as race relations in the South went. Reconstruction was always doomed to fail because of that.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 3:10 pm
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