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So, is this the year we fire Cuonzo

Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10314 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:40 pm
or does Xavier Pinson and Dru Smith carry him to another chance?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:42 pm to
No, it wasn’t financially feasible BEFORE all this Covid shite. It’s definitely not now.

He’s got two more years
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20009 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:44 am to
Cuonzo may leave on his own now that his $ guarantee goes down a bit.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:34 pm to
two more years, then roll the dice again. Hopefully Sundvold overrules Sterk this time, cause Sterk sucks at this
Posted by MizzouFan13
Member since Mar 2020
513 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:19 am to
Probably carry him. I hope Mark Smith has a bounce back year from 3pt range so he can be more effective.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119713 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:43 am to
He may be looking to get out on his own. He’s not in a great position. We aren’t going to fire him, though.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20009 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 1:45 pm to
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two more years, then roll the dice again. Hopefully Sundvold overrules Sterk this time, cause Sterk sucks at this


I don't know if I agree with this. This is Sterk's only basketball coach hire at Mizzou (cuonzo). It didn't work out but I had no problem with the hire initially. It wasn't my first choice and I knew he had historically been mediocre but I thought just maybe with his STL background and additional resources at Mizzou he didn't have at his previous stops that he could do well at Mizzou.

I was wrong of course and so was Sterk but I think he deserves a 2nd chance. Drinkwitz is the same type of hire we need for basketball if we can't pony up for a known commodity.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
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13771 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:55 pm to
I don't have enough info to know this, but I think the evidence for it is good. Counzo was an uninspired choice that he locked onto right away and then overpaid and way over guaranteed. He was getting ready to overpay for the Arky state football coach who he locked onto until the board said no and suggested Drink. He then overpaid for Drink (6 years at 24M for a coach with 1 year of non P5 HC experience). I have little confidence in him to make a great hire (or even good really) and his negotiating style seems to be to lock onto one candidate and give the agent whatever he asks for
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:02 pm to
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his negotiating style seems to be to lock onto one candidate and give the agent whatever he asks for


I'm going to say that non power 6 teams in the SEC have to overpay in football. I may be exaggerating with this statement, but it feels like a relatively poor decision to coach at a non power 6 team when competition is so much "better" for success elsewhere.

I do feel like a lot of places wanted Cuonzo at the time, so I don't know how much that had to do with it. But hindsight certainly shows it was poor negotiating
Posted by blueprint_one
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
1307 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 2:58 pm to
He was hired to get Michael Porter Jr, right? Now that's over without any success from it would lead any rational AD to move on.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:53 pm to
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He’s not in a great position.
he's making north of 3 mil a season
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:04 am to
Why you keep saying overpaid? Drink is making market value. Cuonzo isn’t necessarily overpaid, it’s just the ridiculous guarantee clause in the contract
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68108 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 6:23 am to
quote:

fire Cuonzo

Now that he weighed in the protest shite and the faux white supremacy/racist shite, I hope they fire his arse with quickness....but at least he started a conversation
Posted by MizzouFan13
Member since Mar 2020
513 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 7:20 am to
As much as you may not like him for making the posts, it will probably help in recruiting. Plus with Mizzou's recent history, the last thing they would do is fire a person of color during these times.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 8:40 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 8:32 am to
Yeah, that’s not gonna happen...
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68108 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:19 pm to
I know...he should spend his time trying to be a better coach vs. telling us how we need to be better...he needs to be better at his job.
Posted by Guinny_Ire
STL
Member since Sep 2017
13 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:39 pm to
If Drinkwitz comes out swinging and we see some immediate success, the pressure will be on as to why basketball isn't coming along. That could be the beginning of the end if Cuonzo doesn't show improvement.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20009 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

If Drinkwitz comes out swinging and we see some immediate success, the pressure will be on as to why basketball isn't coming along. That could be the beginning of the end if Cuonzo doesn't show improvement.


Cuonzo is a gonner already. There is very little chance he can work his way back into keeping his job. At this point, he is gone when March 2021 rolls around.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119713 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:20 pm to
It may be 2022.

Really puzzling why this hasn’t worked out at all. I didn’t expect him to be an elite team. I did think we wouldn’t be awful. And we’re awful.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3472 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:41 pm to
And at the same time you need to be better, also.
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