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re: An overlooked aspect of the 4th playoff spot if there is a big upset with LSU

Posted on 12/1/19 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

You don’t have to issue a disclaimer. IMO, the #4 team winning a conference game at home is hardly a huge upset.


you wouldn't think so, but a great number of LSU fans (on here, not normal people in real life) take personal offense to any discussion that includes them possibly losing a game.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 3:44 pm to
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what are you talking about? UGA isn't involved in this, if we win we are obviously in.
I'm saying that we have a shot against LSU next week and that those who say/think we don't are kidding themselves
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 3:45 pm to
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A blowout loss to UGA isnt as embarrassing as a home loss to muschamp


But, you would be getting blown out by the team that got beat by Muschamp at home.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 3:51 pm to
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If Ohio St would lose to Wisconsin do you think the committee would leave out Ohio St? Hell no!


No. I also think if Wisconsin made the playoffs with that win and had the same record as OSU it might give them pause.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 3:56 pm to
If Georgia beat LSU in a close game, Georgia might still be the #4 team.

Remember Penn St/Minnesota from like 2 weeks ago?

Georgia has a really bad loss. Also, they'll compare our common opponents and the A&M games aren't even close. We also played much better against Florida.

I wouldn't be surprised if these were the final rankings (with LSU losing)
1 OSU
2 Clemson
3 LSU
4 Georgia

else

It would look like this

1 OSU
2 Clemson
3 Georgia
4 LSU

Georgia has no chance to jump OSU or Clemson unless they lose.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:03 pm to
That’s only because Minnesota started out ranked a lot lower. If Georgia wins then LSU moves to 4 and Georgia to 3.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 4:04 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:05 pm to
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I wouldn't be surprised if these were the final rankings (with LSU losing)
1 OSU
2 Clemson
3 LSU
4 Georgia


there is no way whatsoever that we would be ranked behind LSU if we win.

-Both teams would be 12-1
-UGA would be a conference champ, LSU would not
-UGA would have just beaten LSU head ot head
-LSU would have 3 wins over top 15 teams, UGA would have 4

Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
825 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:05 pm to
1) LSU very likely wins so this is a don't care,
2) the committee doesn't care about rematches, they seed them as they believe the teams are ranked.

For instance, had Notre Dame beat UGA this year and won out and made the playoff, you are saying that either they or possible SEC champ UGA can't both be in the playoff. There's no such criteria.

Or in 2017, had Ohio State not lost a stinker to Iowa and instead were a 1 loss B1G champ, you are saying the committee would not let both Oklahoma and Ohio State be in the playoff because a possible rematch could have happened. No! All season long, people were hoping for the rematch.

Nowhere in their criteria are they to either consider or prevent rematches.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29720 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:05 pm to
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If Ohio St would lose to Wisconsin do you think the committee would leave out Ohio St?
yes

how do you justify leaving out a 1 loss conference champ?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:09 pm to
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you are saying that either they or possible SEC champ UGA can't both be in the playoff. There's no such criteria.


I never said there was any such criteria, and I never said it wans't possible. I said it's never happened and I suspect the committee would ideally like to avoid it.

quote:

Nowhere in their criteria are they to either consider or prevent rematches.


Nowhere in their criteria does it say you have to win your conference either but they've clearly shown that they take that into account, considering 90% of all playoff teams have done so.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:26 pm to
Only it wouldnt be at home.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:30 pm to
Motherfricker thats why we are going to kick the dog shite out of uga when we play next Saturday. Stomp a damn mudhole...
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:34 pm to
I see you have a variety of talking points to discuss the matter at hand.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:38 pm to
On Championship Drive today, Emmanuel Acho brought up a good point. He said in that scenario, LSU is in regardless and the debate should be between Big12, Utah, and Georgia. His point being that Georgia had the worst loss of all them.

ETA: fwiw I don't agree with him. But I do agree LSU would still get in. LSU is unequivocally better than those other 3.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:39 pm to
The committee would be in a pickle:

On the one hand, I agree that letting LSU in would be bullshite.

On the other hand, leaving LSU our would also be bullshite considering how they handled Bama in the past.
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:41 pm to
quote:


I think LSU makes it in with a loss as long as UGA does not blow them out.

THIS!!!
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

On Championship Drive today, Emmanuel Acho brought up a good point. He said in that scenario, LSU is in regardless


then why even play?

quote:

the debate should be between Big12, Utah, and Georgia




holy shite, they let that guy speak on air? A 12-1 UGA with 4 top 15 wins that just beat #1/2 LSU for the title is not getting left out in any universe for any reason

quote:

His point being that Georgia had the worst loss of all them.


and the 4 top 15 wins? The best win of any of the other teams combined? Winnning the tougher league?

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

On the one hand, I agree that letting LSU in would be bull shite.

On the other hand, leaving LSU our would also be bull shite


I agree

Whichever outcome happens, you can easily say 1) It was the right call and deserved 2) It was total horse shite
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26649 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:47 pm to
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1)Tell UGA "hey congrats on beating LSU to win the SEC, but you still have to play them again next month"


As an lsu fan I can’t imagine how that would feel
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59753 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 4:47 pm to
Georgia oklahoma and utah all lose. Baylor gets the spot
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