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re: Ranking the 1-Loss Playoff Teams by Quality Wins
Posted on 11/21/19 at 4:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 11/21/19 at 4:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They absolutely should have been. But, much like Baylor and Utah this year, those teams don't get national discussion most of the time.
So what you are telling me is that programs like Alabama always get the benefit of the doubt. That's kind of exactly what I've been saying.
The thing is, they weren't. No one thought Wisconsin belonged in the Playoff once they lost to Ohio State. And immediately following the game, every talking head at ESPN framed the debate as between Alabama and Ohio State. I wonder why?
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Per Sagarin Rankings
Wisconsin
Avg Opp : #53
0-1 vs Top 10
3-1 vs Top 30
5-1 vs Top 50
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Alabama
Avg Opp : #59
0-1 vs Top 10
3-1 vs Top 30
4-1 vs Top 50
So basically it boiled down to this:
Alabama = Wisconsin
Resumes were pretty much equal.
But everyone was also in agreement that Ohio State > Wisconsin since OSU just beat them head-to-head on a neutral field and Ohio State won the Big 10 Championship.
Well that's a pretty simple mathematical formula.
If Ohio State > Wisconsin.... and Wisconsin = Alabama, then Ohio State is obviously > Alabama
Yet everyone wants to pretend you're a conspiracy theorist for proposing such a notion. It's actually quite obvious to me.
No one had a problem with Ohio State coming in ahead of Wisconsin despite the fact that OSU had 2 losses. No one even contemplated that morning whether OSU would be ahead of Wisconsin. Everyone knew Ohio State would be in the #4 or #5 spot.
So if no one had a problem with OSU being ahead of Wisconsin despite an extra loss, why does everyone have a problem with them being ahead of Bama?
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 4:36 pm to BHMKyle
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So what you are telling me is that programs like Alabama always get the benefit of the doubt. That's kind of exactly what I've been saying.
The thing is, they weren't. No one thought Wisconsin belonged in the Playoff once they lost to Ohio State. And immediately following the game, every talking head at ESPN framed the debate as between Alabama and Ohio State. I wonder why?
It's not just Alabama - it's also Ohio State and now Clemson.
If Clemson was Baylor or TCU or Utah with their undefeated record, schedule and conference strength..........do you think they'd just be clearly written in to the playoffs right now? I don't.
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If Ohio State > Wisconsin.... and Wisconsin = Alabama, then Ohio State is obviously > Alabama
Yet everyone wants to pretend you're a conspiracy theorist for proposing such a notion. It's actually quite obvious to me.
No one had a problem with Ohio State coming in ahead of Wisconsin despite the fact that OSU had 2 losses. No one even contemplated that morning whether OSU would be ahead of Wisconsin. Everyone knew Ohio State would be in the #4 or #5 spot.
So if no one had a problem with OSU being ahead of Wisconsin despite an extra loss, why does everyone have a problem with them being ahead of Bama?
Ohio State had proven that their best was very very good, but they'd also proven their worst was dog shite. And they threw out their "worst" performances more than a few times.
Not to mention, these people have eyes. They've seen Wisconsin and their cousin Michigan State play Alabama types. They lose. Every time. And most of the time, they lose badly. And this isn't "I watch one team on one TV and another on another TV and one looks better".......they've seen Wisconsin and other teams like Wisconsin play teams like Alabama/Ohio State over the last 5 years and it never goes well. Ever.
Is that completely fair? Maybe not, but Wisconsin hadn't beaten anybody elite (and still hasn't, FWIW) to prove to people they belonged. And Michigan State's trip in 2015 did not do them any favors, either.
This post was edited on 11/21/19 at 4:46 pm
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