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re: Pretend LSU beats Alabama in 2 weeks..
Posted on 10/25/19 at 10:38 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 10/25/19 at 10:38 am to WG_Dawg
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No, Kyle...a 13-0 ACC champion is not getting left out for an 11-1 team that didn't win their division. FFS.
Tell me when Alabama has not received the benefit of the doubt when there is a debate?
2009- Bama and OK State are both 11-1. OK State has a conference Championship but Bama does not. Alabama's one loss was at HOME to a team that the media decides they should get a rematch with despite the fact that game had already been played on Bama's home field. Not saying Bama wasn't the better team, but that decision was completely not fair to LSU who beat them when it was supposed to matter in Tuscaloosa. LSU played a much tougher schedule that season (Top 5 Oregon), had to play an extra game in the SEC Championship Game, and the committee basically said that it wasn't good enough, that Bama should get another shot at them despite the results on the field. It was more unfair to LSU than it was to OK State.... but either way, whether Bama was the best team in the country (which they likely were), they were given a second chance when they in no way deserved it.
2017 is the same thing. Ohio State despite having two losses DESERVED the spot ahead of Alabama. The committee tells us Conference Championships are supposed to matter greatly. Yes, Ohio State had 2 losses to Alabama's one.... but they also won their Conference while Bama failed to win their division.
Ohio State played #2, #6, and #9, and #16 that season.
Alabama played #7, #17, and #23
Bama didn't have a single win over a Top 15 team. A team without a Top 15 win who doesn't win their division should have zero claim to a Playoff spot ahead of a conference champ that has two Top 10 wins on their resume. Replace Alabama with any other team's name with the same resume and it would have never been a debate... Ohio State would have gotten in.
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Posted on 10/25/19 at 10:40 am to BHMKyle
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2017 is the same thing. Ohio State despite having two losses DESERVED the spot ahead of Alabama.
Ohio State 2 losses (1 to Iowa by 30) vs Alabama 1 loss
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2009- Bama and OK State are both 11-1.
It was 2011, and both had 1 loss
Alabama has never gotten in over a P5 conference champ with less losses, not to mention one that is undefeated.
This isn't even a discussion.
This post was edited on 10/25/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/25/19 at 10:42 am to BHMKyle
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Ohio State played #2, #6, and #9, and #16 that season.
Alabama played #7, #17, and #23
Bama didn't have a single win over a Top 15 team. A team without a Top 15 win who doesn't win their division should have zero claim to a Playoff spot ahead of a conference champ that has two Top 10 wins on their resume. Replace Alabama with any other team's name with the same resume and it would have never been a debate... Ohio State would have gotten in.
Alabama was ranked higher in every single computer metric, including the old BCS formula.
You can argue whatever you want to argue, but saying it was some sort of bias towards Alabama and nobody else would get it is just flat out false.
The playoff committee agreed with every faceless metric that doesn't know Alabama from Idaho.
This post was edited on 10/25/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/25/19 at 2:00 pm to BHMKyle
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2017 is the same thing. Ohio State despite having two losses DESERVED the spot ahead of Alabama. The committee tells us Conference Championships are supposed to matter greatly. Yes, Ohio State had 2 losses to Alabama's one.... but they also won their Conference while Bama failed to win their division.
Ohio State played #2, #6, and #9, and #16 that season.
Alabama played #7, #17, and #23
Bama didn't have a single win over a Top 15 team. A team without a Top 15 win who doesn't win their division should have zero claim to a Playoff spot ahead of a conference champ that has two Top 10 wins on their resume. Replace Alabama with any other team's name with the same resume and it would have never been a debate... Ohio State would have gotten in.
Sometimes the committee claims that strength of schedule matter, other times, they don't. The problem is they've never really told us which criteria has priority over the others.
In this case, Bama was taken in spite of the fact they lost to the best team they played and only beat 2 low end top Top 25 team, not because of their name, but because Ohio State was disqualified.
Ohio State played and beat 3 of the 4 Top 16 teams they played losing only to #2 Oklahoma, a very strong schedule. In week 9 before the Iowa game, OSU was #6 in the CFP ranking, easily in a position to make the playoff, but a 24-55 loss to a 7-5 Iowa was too big of an aw-shite to overcome. It was OSU's playoff disqualifier. It's not 2 losses that does a team in, it's one horrible loss of the two. Had Auburn finished as an 11-2 champ, they would have easily made the playoff that year even with two losses.
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