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re: Richt vs Kirby after 3 years
Posted on 5/8/19 at 9:15 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 5/8/19 at 9:15 am to Crowknowsbest
What has Richt won ???
Posted on 5/8/19 at 9:37 am to 1badboy
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What has Richt won ???
In his first 5 years as a head coach he won the east 3 times, the SEC twice, and went to 2 BCS bowls winning 1.
Obvioulsy he never won it all but to suggest his early tenure was a joke with no wins of consequence is simply stupid.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:44 am to WG_Dawg
I guess we can agree to disagree. I absolutely don't believe LSU was an elite team last year either. However, regardless of how Auburn looked at times during the 2017 season, they managed to lose 4 games and gave up a 20+ unanswered points to an average LSU team who totally dominated them in the second half. That's not an indication of a great team.
That being said, Georgia's 2018 schedule was on par with LSU's schedule, neither of which were all that impressive. Are you saying the Bulldogs were elite last year?
That being said, Georgia's 2018 schedule was on par with LSU's schedule, neither of which were all that impressive. Are you saying the Bulldogs were elite last year?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:57 pm to cyarrr
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Georgia's 2018 schedule was on par with LSU's schedule, neither of which were all that impressive. Are you saying the Bulldogs were elite last year?
Not even close, why woudl you think that? I don't think LSU was elite last year either so not sure where you'd get that from.
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I guess we can agree to disagree. I absolutely don't believe LSU was an elite team last year either. However, regardless of how Auburn looked at times during the 2017 season, they managed to lose 4 games and gave up a 20+ unanswered points to an average LSU team who totally dominated them in the second half. That's not an indication of a great team.
I think we can probably even look at subgenres of "great or elite" teams in relation to the season as a whole as it relates to the topic at hand, which in this case is the quality of teams Richt and Kirby faced in certain years. Take 2013 UGA for example. Outstanding team early that beat 2 top 6 teams in September, but was decimated by injuries and lost 5 games. Were they elite? Not even close. But the '13 UGA team that beat LSU was a far, far different one than the '13 UGA that lost to vandy.
I think Richt faced an elite UT and UF in 01. None of the 14 teams in 02 would qualify. Then LSU twice in 03.
I do think the '17 version of AU that kirby faced in November was a great/borderline elite team. Same with Bama and OU that year, and bama last year.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:06 pm to WG_Dawg
I think Richt was a great coach for the majority of his tenure but couldn't get over the hump. Looks like Smart has the program trending up, maybe he is the coach that takes down Saban.
I'd like to see the conference powers of the 2000s dominate again and have multiple elite programs. Looking at the recruiting rankings it appears that may be the case. Alabama, Georgia and LSU are killing it and FLorida is doing much better than they have of late.
I'd like to see the conference powers of the 2000s dominate again and have multiple elite programs. Looking at the recruiting rankings it appears that may be the case. Alabama, Georgia and LSU are killing it and FLorida is doing much better than they have of late.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:See that is the thing. Richt was coaching a lot of J Donnan's players and was successful. Then Richt kinda always shitted the bed in a big game or came up limp vs a inferior team(ill prepared). Richt also seemed to be more in it for the mentoring aspect rather than a coach trying to win. It is obvious that Richt hasnt shown even close to half the passion that Kirby has shown for this program.
Also - kind of like with Les Miles, I think people forget how good Richt's teams were in the first half of his time at UGA because of the inconsistency of the teams he had over the second half of his time there.
Georgia folks - if you can remember back to post-2004, how do you feel this point in the UGA program compares to that point? Similar? Different? The biggest difference I see is Richt was recruiting well, but Kirby is recruiting at a different level.
Kirby has done these things with a lot of Richt's players and we are now finally starting to see all of Kirby's guys and what a massive force these guys will be. Our Oline has been transformed entirely from what Richt threw out there and that is a problem for everyone.
Our DEF is loaded with young talent and now is their time to make their name known to the fans. I think Kirby gets us over the hump within the next 3 years. His first 3 years are good, but his next 3 will be great, IMO.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:30 pm to UnderDog68
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Richt believed in Jesus and was a good man. Smart?
Sure, that's smart.
Richt did it the right way. Smart probably isn't doing it the right way.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:39 pm to TideHyde
quote:So what you are essential saying is that Nick Saban isn't and hasn't been doing it the right way? Saban is the mentor to Kirby and everything Kirby does is a reflection on Saban.
Richt did it the right way. Smart probably isn't doing it the right way.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 7:17 pm to TideHyde
Smart is doing it the saban way. As a bama Fan, you must be ashamed.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 8:09 pm to djsdawg
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Smart is doing it the saban way. As a bama Fan, you must be ashamed.
All I know is Richt did it the right way and believed in God. He also believed in Soulja Boy Crank That arse dances, orchestrated by him, on the sidelines by his players. Apparently God told him it was okay to have his players simulate masturbating onto a woman's back and Super Man that hoe.
He also believed in organizing team fights during the games, where he instructed his whole team to leave the bench to fight, to gain some type of emotional advantage.
But, he cared and did it the right way.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 8:37 pm to TideHyde
Never happened but ok, alter
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Richt and Van Gorder were a great duo. They recruited playmakers on their side of the ball and it got them two SEC championships.
But BVG was too ambitious for his own good while Richt could never make solid staff hires after the fact. Smart just makes better business decisions between the two.
But BVG was too ambitious for his own good while Richt could never make solid staff hires after the fact. Smart just makes better business decisions between the two.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:30 am to SummerOfGeorge
12 pages...bravo SoG...Cliff’s Notes for anyone not reading through this -
UGA contingent - some of them anyway: If Richt had kept up his pace from the first three years, and Kirby matches his own first three years, we cool.
UGA trolls:...farting, snorting, bucking wubbafumple, Herschel Walker.
Auburn fans: He ain’t gone be no good. Y’all ain’t beat nobody. (Re-ties aged New Balance 996’s and goes back to job as sales coordinator in Suwannee, GA)
Rant trolls: wubbafumple, fart, snort, buck, west is better than the east, road games, jerk, snort, fart, buck.
And so it go...
UGA contingent - some of them anyway: If Richt had kept up his pace from the first three years, and Kirby matches his own first three years, we cool.
UGA trolls:...farting, snorting, bucking wubbafumple, Herschel Walker.
Auburn fans: He ain’t gone be no good. Y’all ain’t beat nobody. (Re-ties aged New Balance 996’s and goes back to job as sales coordinator in Suwannee, GA)
Rant trolls: wubbafumple, fart, snort, buck, west is better than the east, road games, jerk, snort, fart, buck.
And so it go...
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 9:32 am
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
if Georgia fans think they were better off in 2004 than today, then they don't deserve Kirby
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:38 am to schmoo
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if Georgia fans think they were better off in 2004 than today, then they don't deserve Kirby
I don't think a single person thinks that. With that said we have the benefit of hindsight as well as knowing what we have now compared to then. If you went back in time to summer/preseason 2004, there were plenty of reasons to be sky high over our trajectory at the time.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:39 am to smelvis
Georgia is still suffering from the head scratching losses and blowouts that they did under Richt. Nothing has changed. Kirby has been blown out every single season at Georgia. Kirby is Richt and Richt is Kirby.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:41 am to Kimsey
If it's national title or bust, then everyone in D1 football has failed outside of 3 teams from 2011-. That's a lot of teams having failures of a season.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:50 am to Jake_LaMotta
Fart, snort, buck, jerk...wubbafumple...
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:55 am to smelvis
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Fart, snort, buck, jerk...wubbafumple...
So Kirby hasn't been blow out in each season? Hasn't suffered any head scratching losses? Is that what you are saying?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:10 am to Jake_LaMotta
In each of Saban's first 3 seasons at a big boy school he was blown out, several times by 40 points.
It's almost like, bare with me here...coaches can grow and improve the longer they're in the business..
It's almost like, bare with me here...coaches can grow and improve the longer they're in the business..
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