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re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:55 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:55 pm to DawgsLife
The problem with the “Scott has only coached three years, let’s give him time” thing is that UGA, if we are to be a national contender, should NOT be the place to learn on the job.
I’m not saying every coach needs to be a 20 year vet, but if you come in as a young guy, you better make a splash quickly, because if you take 2-3 years to get up to speed, your position group falls so far behind that it limits team potential. Some have even said that we should give Scott 5-7 years to build rapport with high school coaches and settle in. That is patently ridiculous.
The bottom line is that it is all but impossible to win at a high level without a very good DL. Last year we signed Travon Walker, who was coming to UGA no matter what, and several guys who are considered projects. Norton, who has been mentioned many times here, was considered by half the recruiting industry to be an OL prospect only at the next level.
Fast forward to 2020, a cycle in which coming roster attrition necessitates that we a) oversign at the position, and b) identify and sign guys who can contribute immediately (not ever a good thing for LOS prospects), and it becomes clear that this is a critical class for the future of our defense.
Missing on Bresee and Murphy, who could both have been immediate impact guys, and one of whom is an in state legacy, is pretty damning. Factor in that most think we lose Burroughs, and the picture isn’t that pretty. We will be forced to hope that quite a few lesser rated guys outplay their ranking. Jordan Davis has been a pleasant surprise, but he still has a lot to prove, and even if he ends up being an all American, that doesn’t mean that every project Scott signs will be an impact player.
Furthermore, as Fib mentioned, Alabama and Clemson continue to load up and stack freak DL players like cordwood. If you go back and watch the last two Bama games, their DL absolutely manhandles us up front in the second half, and we don’t currently have dudes like that on our roster.
I’m not saying every coach needs to be a 20 year vet, but if you come in as a young guy, you better make a splash quickly, because if you take 2-3 years to get up to speed, your position group falls so far behind that it limits team potential. Some have even said that we should give Scott 5-7 years to build rapport with high school coaches and settle in. That is patently ridiculous.
The bottom line is that it is all but impossible to win at a high level without a very good DL. Last year we signed Travon Walker, who was coming to UGA no matter what, and several guys who are considered projects. Norton, who has been mentioned many times here, was considered by half the recruiting industry to be an OL prospect only at the next level.
Fast forward to 2020, a cycle in which coming roster attrition necessitates that we a) oversign at the position, and b) identify and sign guys who can contribute immediately (not ever a good thing for LOS prospects), and it becomes clear that this is a critical class for the future of our defense.
Missing on Bresee and Murphy, who could both have been immediate impact guys, and one of whom is an in state legacy, is pretty damning. Factor in that most think we lose Burroughs, and the picture isn’t that pretty. We will be forced to hope that quite a few lesser rated guys outplay their ranking. Jordan Davis has been a pleasant surprise, but he still has a lot to prove, and even if he ends up being an all American, that doesn’t mean that every project Scott signs will be an impact player.
Furthermore, as Fib mentioned, Alabama and Clemson continue to load up and stack freak DL players like cordwood. If you go back and watch the last two Bama games, their DL absolutely manhandles us up front in the second half, and we don’t currently have dudes like that on our roster.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 2:14 pm to NCDawg52
You say Trayvon was coming to UGA no matter what. You couldn’t be more wrong. USCe was very much in it because of family ties to Carol Muschamp. TS, and Kirby, won that one.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 2:26 pm to NCDawg52
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Norton, who has been mentioned many times here, was considered by half the recruiting industry to be an OL prospect only at the next level.
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If you go back and watch the last two Bama games, their DL absolutely manhandles us up front in the second half, and we don’t currently have dudes like that on our roster.
Quinnen Williams was rated lower than Bill Norton on the 247 composite.
It isn't just rankings. It is scheme and development.
Davis won't be an all american because of his position. NTs don't get that notoriety when 3 techs can dominate the statsheets and highlights. But he can be every bit as important as an all American if he can stay on the field.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 2:29 pm to NCDawg52
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The problem with the “Scott has only coached three years, let’s give him time” thing is that UGA, if we are to be a national contender, should NOT be the place to learn on the job.
That is a good point. But Kirby picked him and he now has two years here. It would not be good if we fired him and he became a great coach. I am ready to give him another year or two at least. I just don't see the huge disparity in our DLine class with any of our other classes other than OLine. Checked the Recruiter rankings and we have 1 coach (right now...this year) that is in the top 25. Pittman at #11. Scott is 3rd on our staff. Two other people on our staff is recruiting better than him, and one is Pittman.
quote:I would disagree with this. Weren't we at least a little worried about SCarolina? Seems they got in the mix.
Last year we signed Travon Walker, who was coming to UGA no matter what,
quote:Okay. then your problem would be with Kirby Smart. At that level the coaches present who they think best fits the scheme and who they feel they can get in the mix for. The head coach has to sign off on who we spend resources on.
Norton, who has been mentioned many times here, was considered by half the recruiting industry to be an OL prospect only at the next level.
quote:I have no heard anything about losing Burroughs. Are you thinking about Stackhouse?
Factor in that most think we lose Burroughs,
Keep in mind, we still have several players out there that we are in it for.
Cowan
Walker
Boykin
Ojulari
are all out there, and, if we were ready to accept their commits would probably commit to us right now. At least a couple of those would. I'm just not ready to hit "The sky is falling" mode just yet. If Herring and Wyatt have good enough years to leave, then we will have done a jam up job across the DLine this year.
Looks like we lose 4...Rochester, Clark, Barnett and Marshall. (Am I missing somebody?)
Rochester has been okay, Clark good, Barnett marginal and Marshall a bit disappointing to me.
Hopefully Scott will mature, learn and turn the corner this year.
Posted on 7/10/19 at 3:56 pm to NCDawg52
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Missing on Bresee and Murphy, who could both have been immediate impact guys, and one of whom is an in state legacy, is pretty damning.
How is missing on Bresee pretty damning?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 2:21 am to NCDawg52
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Missing on Bresee and Murphy
Bresee = overhyped and overrated. Great White Hope syndrome. Should have gotten Capehart or Dexter.
So far, we aren't playing with the big boys as far as getting the top tier of DLs like Clemson or 'Bama.
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