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Upcoming Elephant Walk will not stop at Sul Ross statue

Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:17 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:17 am
The Battalion - Upcoming Elephant Walk will not stop at Sul Ross statue

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While students will still pass by the statue, Tisch said it will not be a focus of the walk because student groups have recently expressed discomfort concerning Sul Ross’ past as a Confederate general.

“We really just feel like there are a bunch of students here who are about to graduate and who have still yet to feel like A&M is their home just because of certain traditions that they don’t feel included in or just the way they’ve been treated or viewed by their peers or their professors,” Tisch said. “This is a small other way that could help some students feel more welcomed here right before they graduate.”


Well, we had a nice run, ladies and gentlemen. Can’t say I didn’t see this coming, but I was hoping A&M would have been different.
Posted by AggieBruh
HTine
Member since Oct 2018
345 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:39 am to
Good Lord everyone is a vag nowadays
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 12:44 am to
quote:

there are a bunch of students here who are about to graduate and who have still yet to feel like A&M is their home just because of certain traditions


What the frick is this bullshite right here.

My God.

New Army has finally arrived at the gates of hell
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80394 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:17 am to
You can feel included by going somewhere else.

Speaking seriously though I don't remember much about elephant walk.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 1:18 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:19 am to
We do a lot of retarded shite as a society, but insisting on judging all of human history based on the western morality of 2018 quite possibly takes the cake.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
3580 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:37 am to
Fear not, there’s one in every crowd. My class had the “apartheid shantys” built to get A&M to divest from South Africa in the 80’s. Plus, it’s the Batt. In the words of Dub Miller -

“Well he picks up a "Battalion"
Just to see what's going on
But all he finds to read about
Is what we're doin' wrong”

My kid is a senior. She’s paid tribute at Sully’s feet for test help. There will be an appreciative pause by at least one Ag that I know of.

On the side, when did “E-Walk coordinator” become a thing?



Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 7:20 am to
This is a great example of why I refuse to donate any money as long as that leftist Young is president.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:27 am to
guess me and my fellow '08ers are finally old army now. feelsgoodman
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 10:47 am to
You know I don’t mind the concept of traditions changing over time to feel more inclusive, but if it’s a significant change it needs to be more than a token gesture with negligible benefit. And it needs to be done for those coming in, not for those with a foot out the door.

I mean are these Aggies who have felt excluded their entire time there really going to change an opinion just because they changed elephant walk? I just can’t see any of those self hating Aggies going “yeah I used to think the school was full of white racists who didn’t care about me but they changed one tradition after my four years there to be inclusive so now I like the place.” Doesn’t work that way.

Plus that doesn’t even consider the concept that the crowd who dislikes what A&M stands for as a culture are often there because it affords them an opportunity that they can’t get elsewhere. It seems so immature to me to not feel “included” in a place just because the culture revolves around conservative values when the liberal paradises you wish A&M was isn’t willing to give you a scholarship or a chance at a better life.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 6:07 am to
TAMC has finally gone full retard
Posted by shiner17
Lone Star State
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Posted on 11/19/18 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:50 pm to

Letter to the editor: To those who care more about a statue than fellow Aggies


By Margarita Zollo, Political Science Senior Nov 19, 2018

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Lawrence Sullivan Ross supported the Confederacy as a general, has ties to white supremacy, and committed many gratuitous acts of violence against people of color over the course of his life.

In the same way the Confederate flag symbolizes a history of hate towards marginalized ethnic and racial groups, the Sullivan Ross statue symbolizes a man who fought for racial inequality and systemic oppression. This statue is not only a reminder of that history, but also a glorification, whether it’s by the pennies left at its feet or the stop made for it on every campus tour. Students from a wide range of ethnic and racial backgrounds are forced to walk past this statue representing a man who would have sooner killed them than celebrated them. Sullivan Ross not only slaughtered a group of fleeing and unarmed indigenous women and children, but also ordered and took part in a massacre of black Union soldiers, who were recently freed former slaves with little to no military training and posed no threat to Ross. In his own words, each man was focused on “nothing but making his escape… but a few of them got away. The road all the way to Yazoo City was literally strewed with their bodies.”

Those who would rather stick up for the statue of a long-gone man rather than the emotional and mental well being of current, former, and future Aggies claim that the Ross statue is an important part of our history at the university and in the nation. If this is true, however, we should be honest about how our history is handled. Either this statue should be moved to a museum, where history can be remembered accurately, or should be given a visual marker to explain this history, along with a more honest and transparent account of Ross’ complex past during tours and campus discussions.

President Young and and Chancellor Sharp have said that historical items at A&M and at universities across the A&M System will be reviewed to ensure they are consistent with the university and the System's values. A highly visible and glorified statue of an overly violent Confederate general does not fit our school’s values of excellence and respect, or at least it shouldn’t if the administration truly wants everyone to feel welcome in our Aggie family.

If you or someone you know are interested in learning more about community and student-led activism and our demands for meaningful institutional change, feel free to find TAMU Anti-Racism on social media, or check out our latest petition on Change.org, “Demand Diversity and Inclusion Action at Texas A&M University.” Many of us support these demands because we’ve experienced or have seen people experience exclusion and hate from fellow Aggies based on our identities, and we would love to instead be a part of a community that gives all Aggies a chance to succeed and feel supported.





Letter to the editor: Chancellor Sharp says statue honors Sul Ross' service to all Texans

John Sharp, Texas A&M University System Chancellor Nov 20, 2018

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A recent letter attacking Lawrence Sullivan Ross in The Battalion claiming he “has ties to white supremacy, and committed many gratuitous acts of violence against people of color” is totally wrong and, in fact, the reverse is true!

Not only is it true that Ross saved Texas A&M when wealthy real estate developers in Austin were trying to shut it down, but he also saved Prairie View A&M as well. In a speech in Waco in July 1897, Edward Blackshear, for whom the Prairie View football stadium is named and who was the first leader of Prairie View A&M, praised Ross as perhaps the best friend black Texans ever had. Literally, Prairie View A&M and Texas A&M would not exist but for Lawrence Sullivan Ross.

Perhaps the writer of this letter also didn’t know that black children who were deaf and blind had no services available to them until Ross, as Governor, ordered the creation of an institute specifically for blind and deaf black children in Texas and created a mental health facility for black Texans because they were excluded from that as well.

In addition, he had NO ties to white supremacy as the writer wrongly asserts.

We are all entitled to our opinion, but we are not entitled to our own wrongheaded facts.

Lawrence Sullivan Ross will have his statue at Texas A&M forever, not because of obstinance, but because he deserves the honor with a lifetime of service to ALL TEXANS and ALL AGGIES.

Sincerely,

John Sharp Chancellor

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