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Stat to show just how abysmal Arkansas special teams have been
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:34 pm
In 2017, for the whole FBS season, roughly 1 out every 168 qtrs saw a KO or Punt returned for a TD.
Arkansas in its first 17 qtrs of 2018, gave up 2...
Stat provided by the guru himself, D. Bartoo.
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Note to Chad... Hire a Special Teams coach.
Arkansas in its first 17 qtrs of 2018, gave up 2...
Stat provided by the guru himself, D. Bartoo.
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Note to Chad... Hire a Special Teams coach.
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 9:36 pm
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 10:11 pm to Jack Ruby
Had to go to Dave Bartoo stats to prove how bad our special teams are?
Watch the last 5 years since John L and anyone can see that post Hocker and Breeding as specialists with the exception of Irwin-Hill, Baker one year and Korliss/De’Vion Warren KR TDs it trash.
Bad scholarship decisions, slow, bad angles, can’t reach end zone, sky kicks, 20-30 yd punts.
Watch the last 5 years since John L and anyone can see that post Hocker and Breeding as specialists with the exception of Irwin-Hill, Baker one year and Korliss/De’Vion Warren KR TDs it trash.
Bad scholarship decisions, slow, bad angles, can’t reach end zone, sky kicks, 20-30 yd punts.
Posted on 10/3/18 at 10:20 pm to RazorHawg
At this point, I'd even be open to bringing "smile" back as a ST coach. I don't care, just never let that man near the HC office and it's OK.
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 10:32 pm to Jack Ruby
Go look up Coach Morris' special team stats at SMU
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not good
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not good
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:38 pm to hilltophog
quote:Why are people pretending ST's haven't been an issue since 2013?
Go look up Coach Morris' special team stats at SMU
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not good
Posted on 10/3/18 at 11:58 pm to Drewbie
quote:The last consistent kicker we had was Hocker.
Why are people pretending ST's haven't been an issue since 2013?
Irwin Hill and Baker were good punters.
Other than that we have been bad for a while.
BUT hiring a coach who obviously doesn't prioritize (or does a bad job doing so) special teams won't remedy that problem.
You can't blame Bert for Morris' inability to field a decent special team unit at SMU.
Morris needs to hire a special team coach ASAP.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:01 am to hilltophog
quote:I mean they were a 1-11 team when he got there. There's only so much you can do within the timeframe he was there. I'd wager kickers weren't that high on his list off the bat.
You can't blame Bert for Morris' inability to field a decent special team unit at SMU.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:29 am to Drewbie
quote:That is dumb. Special teams are a pretty important part of the game. Why wouldn't he try and find a kicker?
I mean they were a 1-11 team when he got there. There's only so much you can do within the timeframe he was there. I'd wager kickers weren't that high on his list off the bat.
Why didn't he improve his special team to a respectable level by the time he left?
Let's compare 2017 Arkansas special teams vs. 2017 SMU special teams:
PAT
#54 Arkansas 41/42 = 97.6
#121 SMU 57/63 = 90.5
Field Goals
#70 Arkansas 16/22 = 72.7
#74 SMU 15/21 =71.4
Punting
#79 SMU = 40.61 average
#115 Arkansas = 38.59
Kickoffs
#80 Arkansas = 60.73 average
#121 SMU = 58.37 average
Punt Returns
#12 Arkansas = 12.75 average 0 TDs
#122 SMU = 3.71 average 0 TDs
Kickoff Returns
#65 Arkansas 21.27 yards and 1 TDs
#92 SMU = 19.48 yards 0 TDs
Opponents Punt Return (Punt Coverage)
#12 Arkansas = 3.64 average 0 TDs
#62 SMU = 6.70 average 0 TDs
Opponents Kick-Off Return (Kick Coverage)
#34 Arkansas = 19.34 average 1 TD
#113 SMU = 24.16 average 0 TDs
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:52 am to hilltophog
I also don't remember any coach (from Ford to Bielema) having to call time out because we couldn't get lined up for kickoff.
Or giving up a first down b/c we have two players with the same number on punt return
OR bullshite like this:
The only thing Morris has going for him is Chavis' defense and his recruiting.
Speaking of recruiting - according to 247 composite we are currently ranked #21 which is second best in the past 10+ years. #1 was Petrino's 2009 class at #20.
Bielema's best class was ranked #22 in 2015.
Or giving up a first down b/c we have two players with the same number on punt return
OR bullshite like this:
The only thing Morris has going for him is Chavis' defense and his recruiting.
Speaking of recruiting - according to 247 composite we are currently ranked #21 which is second best in the past 10+ years. #1 was Petrino's 2009 class at #20.
Bielema's best class was ranked #22 in 2015.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 4:07 am to hilltophog
quote:I'd imagine there are more pressing matters within a team that goes 2-10 than finding a kicker.
Special teams are a pretty important part of the game. Why wouldn't he try and find a kicker?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 6:56 am to Drewbie
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I'd imagine there are more pressing matters within a team that goes 2-10 than finding a kicker.
Kina like Bert's tendencies at Wisky of blowing games late in the 3rd and 4th qtrs. His past sure did follow him to Arkansas.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:02 am to ArHog
quote:Again, why are we pretending our ST's haven't been shite since 2013? This isn't a Morris-exclusive issue.
His past sure did follow him to Arkansas.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:21 am to Drewbie
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Again, why are we pretending our ST's haven't been shite since 2013? This isn't a Morris-exclusive issue.
They have been shite, now it's a Morris issue that needs to be addressed.
When he hires a ST Coach then I'll believe he's committed to fixing the problem.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:23 am to ArHog
How about we let him get an actual class in first?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:36 am to Drewbie
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How about we let him get an actual class in first?
Fair
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:15 am to Jack Ruby
Just not convinced a dedicated special teams coach would make that much of a difference. You don't have that much practice time available to dedicate to it. Alabama's special teams coordinator also coaches tight ends so he doesn't spend 100% of his time on it either and yet theirs is great because they have great players.
We have an OL coach but it still sucks because we have former walk-ons starting. When you have Joe Adams, Dennis Johnson, Zack Hocker and Dylan Breeding of course the special teams are going to look good. We just don't have any playmakers right now anywhere.
We have an OL coach but it still sucks because we have former walk-ons starting. When you have Joe Adams, Dennis Johnson, Zack Hocker and Dylan Breeding of course the special teams are going to look good. We just don't have any playmakers right now anywhere.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:30 am to gohogs141
quote:sometimes the Jimmy's and Joe's mean more
When you have Joe Adams, Dennis Johnson, Zack Hocker and Dylan Breeding of course the special teams are going to look good
Posted on 10/4/18 at 2:44 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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sometimes the Jimmy's and Joe's mean more
Jimmys and joes> x's and o's
Always.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:15 pm to Jack Ruby
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Stat to show just how abysmal Arkansas special teams have been
Wow. Really? And here I thought they were super good!
Posted on 10/4/18 at 3:41 pm to piggilicious
Jack is still melting...
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