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Honest Question: Have any QBs progressed under CGM?

Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by WillyB99
Member since Sep 2017
258 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:36 am
I can't seem to remember any QBs that have gotten better after year one under Gus. I don't follow this as closely as some of you, so I really don't know for sure.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26787 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:38 am to
Cam was nowhere near as good of a passer when he came in. Nick Marshall was one of the worst passers I’ve ever seen at the beginning of 2013.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:39 am to
Cam was a very average passer when he got here. The CU, MSU, and Kentucky game in 2010 was hard to watch. NM was RAW when he arrived to campus. I get the Gus hate at times, but you can't just discredit the two best QBs the past 30 years under his guidance.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Cam was nowhere near as good of a passer when he came in. Nick Marshall was one of the worst passers I’ve ever seen at the beginning of 2013.


facts
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:40 am to
This why folks should be hesitant to criticize our QB's. Gus isn't a QB whisperer.

Unless it's a full blown shite show like JJ, I can't bring myself to pile on a Gus Malzahn QB because they're not getting developed by him and his offense isn't built to maximize their strengths.
Posted by WillyB99
Member since Sep 2017
258 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:40 am to
Cam obviously only played one year and Gus was the OC. I should have put that in the subject... I meant as a HC.

If I remember it correctly, Nick Marshall was much worse in 2014 as opposed to 2013. That could have been a result of lower overall talent.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:41 am to
It seems like Gus was trying to prove he could win with a passing QB. Screw the haters. Do you and run the QB option.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:42 am to
Wut? NM was fantastic in 2014. The D was a seive.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26787 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:42 am to
quote:

It seems like Gus was trying to prove he could win with a passing QB. Screw the haters. Do you and run the QB option

It appears he may have learned this when you look at our QB recruiting the past couple years (aside from Stidham).
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:43 am to
Dumb post. This issue has been discussed to death over the last several years. I don’t believe you were truly wanting to know the answer to your question l
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:44 am to
Bo Nix and Cord won't be doing any QB options. Gatewood maybe, but the jury is still out on him.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26787 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:45 am to
quote:

If I remember it correctly, Nick Marshall was much worse in 2014 as opposed to 2013.

Your memory is off. 2014 our offense was actually fantastic. We weren’t nearly as proficient on the ground, but we developed a deadly passing game.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26787 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:46 am to
Cord is fast enough to make you at least respect it. Nix is fast enough to really hurt you. He isn’t as fast as NM was, but I bet he could hang with Willis.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33372 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:47 am to
I think QB option is Cord’s wheelhouse, actually. Nix is typically grouped with dual threat guys. No idea what the future holds for either, but I’d guess Cord is more optiony than Nix
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 10:48 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:48 am to
That's encouraging

ETA:

I never understood why Gus would move from such an effective component of his O.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 10:50 am
Posted by WillyB99
Member since Sep 2017
258 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:50 am to
Fair enough... and thanks!
Posted by WillyB99
Member since Sep 2017
258 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:54 am to
So you reply "Dumb Post" and then spit out your moronic generalized opinions. You sir are a D bag!
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:57 am to
quote:

I think QB option is Cord’s wheelhouse, actually. Nix is typically grouped with dual threat guys. No idea what the future holds for either, but I’d guess Cord is more optiony than Nix

That's how I've heard it as well. Nix is similar to Stidham in that he can elude but isn't a true running threat. I think Cord will be taking some shots.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:09 am to
Nick and Cam both did.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:10 am to
man oh man do I remember the days of

"Malzahn fielded a great offense with Chris Todd, he can just throw you or me back there and put up 500 yards of offense"
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