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Headed to yearly Guardian Society luncheon ...

Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:25 am
... will have my ears open for any breaking news.

Last year I was talking with mUSChamp when he got the call that McIlwain was waiting for him in his office to announce he was transferring.

I doubt anything like that will happen today.

Last year we were also treated to the new Football Ops Building drawings ... in The Zone.

ETA: I hate frickin autocorrect. Garnet to Guardian
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 8:00 pm
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:45 am to
anything you're hoping to find out?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
41975 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:46 pm to
Found out nothing except normal business ... them asking us for more money.

Last year was so much better ... more Athletic Department focused.

Mrs Pastides gave us a speech about her book.

Another gal told us that we had employed slaves back in the day and all white alumni should be ashamed and that they are digging for slave artifacts now as proof of our white guilt.

The food was really good.

The new Alumni Hall where it was held is really nice.

That's about it.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 8:04 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 3:32 am to
quote:

The food was really good. 

So you had friend chicken?
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 4:07 am to
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Another gal told us that we had employed slaves back in the day and all white alumni should be ashamed and that they are digging for slave artifacts now as proof of our white guilt.



W...t....f???
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101502 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 4:30 am to
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them asking us for more money.


This

quote:

Another gal told us that we had employed slaves back in the day and all white alumni should be ashamed and that they are digging for slave artifacts now as proof of our white guilt.


And this together probably isn’t the best strategy.
Posted by big6ben9
Member since Nov 2012
320 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 6:32 am to
That is crazy and why are we putting up plaques on campus about this is where slaves slept. When my wife told me this actually happened I thought it was a joke. Why would we shoot ourselves in the foot with recruits by publicizing our heritage of slave ownership.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 7:29 am to
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Why would we shoot ourselves in the foot with recruits by publicizing our heritage of slave ownership.




BECAUSE IT'S SOUTHERN HISTORY!
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27157 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:11 am to
Would I want to be lectured down to or white guilted about it? Absolutely not.

But there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that part of the school’s history. It’s not like theyre calling for the Horseshoe to be torn down or something. Plaque is fine.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15931 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:36 am to
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It’s not like theyre calling for the Horseshoe to be torn down or something


Probably only a matter of time
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:37 pm to
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It’s not like theyre calling for the Horseshoe to be torn down or something. Plaque is fine.



I hope they don't discover something unflattering about Robert Mills.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27157 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:40 pm to
The entire Horseshoe was built by slaves. That’s already known. No one is tearing it down. Plaque is fine. I’d be more worried about renaming of schools than anything actually happening to the buildings themselves.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:52 pm to
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The entire Horseshoe was built by slaves. That’s already known. No one is tearing it down. Plaque is fine. I’d be more worried about renaming of schools than anything actually happening to the buildings themselves.


Yeah, I know nothing will happen to the buildings. I like Robert Mills' work, so it'd just be frustrating to see his legacy at USC be tarnished.

I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been any calls to rename schools. If any student ever takes 5 minutes to research some of those names on the buildings, they'd realize that USC was a pretty elite place pre-Civil War.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 1:59 pm to
The wife and I got married there
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27157 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:14 pm to
Same, especially since SC native Calhoun’s name caused a stir and was removed up at Yale where he went to school. Surprised that didn’t dust up something here.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15931 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:40 pm to
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Calhoun


Responsible for Clemson. Not a fan
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27157 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Responsible for Clemson. Not a fan


He and Tillman (the actual one and the poster) would’ve probably seen eye to eye on a lot of other things besides Clemson.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 3:08 pm to
I wish Calhoun could come back to life to see his great-etc.-granddaughter on that Bravo reality show Southern Charm.

I just want to see him make that angry face at her.

Posted by big6ben9
Member since Nov 2012
320 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 7:33 pm to
White guilt is running rampant at USC right now amongst the upper brass. I mentioned the plaque as just a symbol of what the administration is trying to push, not what the students want at their school.

Scrooster, I want you to know that the students don’t want to be reminded of the racial discrimination that was so previlant in the past. This came up in my wife’s class (she was a professor at USC) last semester and I’m telling you this because I want her students, from the Public Health Dept, to have a voice.
Posted by Mr.Sinister
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2012
4956 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:39 pm to
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putting up plaques on campus about this is where slaves slept.


Need to change the wording in my opinion from slept to sleep.

Slavery still exists and is as modern and updated as anything.
Chains are now called debt.
Masters are now called banks.
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