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Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:12 am
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:12 am
Quality thread #42

Did We Win Edition Last Year

Gamethread From Last Year

Last year was a nightmare. Everything from the energy of the game to the refs to the Keiton Page love fest on the sidelines.












This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 10:10 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:30 am to
They are pretty bad and have a terrible RPI, the loss would absolutely tank our RPI, it is a must win.

OSU RPI #86

Teams with a better RPI than them:

Rider
Wright State
Towson
UC Davis
William & Mary
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 1:32 am
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:43 am to
towson is legit fwiw.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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68487 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:46 am to
A couple of those teams are legit, but still doesn't matter with the RPI and they are win conference tourney or not make it teams.

We would probably drop around 15 spots with a home loss to an 86 RPI team, possibly more.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 1:47 am
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:15 am to
Surprised it's that low. Didn't they just beat Oklahoma?

ETA: They have a couple bad road losses in Baylor and Kansas State, but other than that they've beaten who they should have and grabbed some wins over OU and FSU. Not a gimmie by any stretch.
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Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:21 am to
Yeah at home, they lost by 20 at OU earlier in the year. They're 0-4 on the road.

It's definitely not a gimmie they play everyone close and have a few solid wins, from an RPI perspective though that doesn't matter it would be our worst loss and tank us 15 spots or so which we cannot afford as a likely bubble team.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 4:24 am
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:07 am to
They shoot an abysmal 32.5 % from behind the arc. From the line they are shooting over 76 %.


I'm fairly positive they will light us up from behind the arc due to poor switching on D.

Hogs should win by 15+, but it has more of an Ole Miss feel to me.


Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:02 am to
quote:

They shoot an abysmal 32.5 % from behind the arc. From the line they are shooting over 76 %.





quote:

abysmal


This word doesn't mean what you think it means.

You meant to type, "really solid".
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:06 am to
Breakdown of 3pt shooting percentages.

35-40%: outstanding.

30-35%: good

25-30%: needs improvement

0-25%: don't shoot
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:12 am to
quote:



This word doesn't mean what you think it means.

You meant to type, "really solid".


I mean, they are ranked 286th by that percentage in D1. That isn't good.
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:31 am to
They're another team that lives and dies by the 3. The problem is they don't hit them on the road as well as they do at home.

11% differential. 37% at home.

Part of it is their system. They like to shoot it from out there quite a lot in an effort to stretch their opponent's defense. And while they average out at 30 whatever percent it was, it is their willingness to shoot it from out there that leads to them being 111th in effective field goal shooting percentage, which is in the upper half of division one ball.

And if I'm coaching a team, 33% from 3 is fine by me.

For reference, Steve Kerr held the NBA record for 3 point shooting percentage for many years and he only hit 35%.

33% is good. Especially if shooting a lot of them is an element in your overall offensive attack.
Posted by Hogsfan005
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Dec 2015
470 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 9:49 am to
So what you’re saying is, it’ll probably be a lot closer of a game than it should be? Since our 3 pt defense is sub par at best. And somehow everyone shoots lights out against us
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:00 am to
Nah. Arkansas will probably blow them out.

Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:02 am to
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Nah. Arkansas will probably blow them out.


Most likely since we haven't blown anyone out since conference play started.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:05 am to
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Wright State


frick Wright sState for copying our fight song.
Posted by Ray Penpillage
Western Slope
Member since Nov 2010
9409 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:30 am to
quote:

For reference, Steve Kerr held the NBA record for 3 point shooting percentage for many years and he only hit 45%.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 10:40 am to
quote:


For reference, Steve Kerr held the NBA record for 3 point shooting percentage for many years and he only hit 35%.


Don't know how I missed that
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:26 pm to


What can I say? I like to lie to people on the internet.

Seriously though, it's a little more than 10% off a record setting mark. It isn't abysmal, by any stretch. Of course, you'd like to see your number at 35% or higher, but 33% is acceptable. Especially if you have good rebounders on your team.

The record setter shoots 45 and an entire team shoots 33? Eh, I'll take it.

It's like the difference between Macon shooting 90% from the foul line and the entire team shooting 75%.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:02 pm to
quote:


Seriously though, it's a little more than 10% off a record setting mark. It isn't abysmal


It wouldn't be the first word I used to describe it but I also wouldn't say good.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:14 pm to
Ever so slightly below average.

But with the capability of being well above average on any given night. An 11 point swing in home vs away games says a lot. They obviously have shooters.

Arkansas needs to continue to dial up the defensive pressure.

But like I mentioned earlier, their propensity to launch deep shots also apparently opens up a lot of stuff for them underneath because their effective field goal percentage is well ABOVE average. It's part of their offensive design, obviously.

That said, they're still at like 111th in effective field goal percentage. I'm pretty sure Arkansas is much higher than that, and the team that scores the most points (average) usually wins in basketball.

With the game being in Fayetteville I would be surprised if Arkansas doesn't rout these guys.

May be closer if OK State lights us up from behind the line. Which is possible. Arkansas should win either way though
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