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Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:27 pm to navynuke
Exactly. Finley is going places soon. He's a bright young coach and a good recruiter. He was instrumental in a lot of the design and concepts of our current scheme.
The question becomes, do you want him progressing here. My answer is yes. I think he'll do a great job and I think he's ready.
Tennessee just hired two coordinators who were position coaches prior. Alabama is likely going to promote their LB coach to DC.
The question becomes, do you want him progressing here. My answer is yes. I think he'll do a great job and I think he's ready.
Tennessee just hired two coordinators who were position coaches prior. Alabama is likely going to promote their LB coach to DC.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:33 pm to the808bass
Sounds like you don’t trust BO’s ability to evaluate offensive coaches, and will have issues with who he hires regardless.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:51 pm to JesusQuintana
Chris Rumph was DLine coach for multiple years at the following schools: Alabama, Clemson and Florida. He also coached at Texas.
Tyson Helton was QB coach at USC for two years, offensive coordinator at Western Kentucky for two years under Brohm and previously an assistant at Cincinnati, UAB, Memphis and Hawaii.
Joe Jon Finley worked in 2015 as offensive quality control specialist for Baylor after coaching high school in 2014. Then we hired him. Could he be a great hire? Sure.
Is he any way comparable to Helton or Rumph experience-wise? No.
Tyson Helton was QB coach at USC for two years, offensive coordinator at Western Kentucky for two years under Brohm and previously an assistant at Cincinnati, UAB, Memphis and Hawaii.
Joe Jon Finley worked in 2015 as offensive quality control specialist for Baylor after coaching high school in 2014. Then we hired him. Could he be a great hire? Sure.
Is he any way comparable to Helton or Rumph experience-wise? No.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:53 pm to wubilli
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Sounds like you don’t trust BO’s ability to evaluate coaches
Barry doesn’t trust his own ability to evaluate coaches. He’s fired two and doesn’t miss the most recent one who left.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:54 pm to the808bass
Possibly Barry Odom, the same guy that hired an OC that was "on the scrap heap" and an Oline coach from Arkansas State that no one ever heard of. Those guys are currently taking over at the best non P5 job in the nation.
If you don't see how he adds value to an offensive staff, so be it.
If you don't see how he adds value to an offensive staff, so be it.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:54 pm to the808bass
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Is he any way comparable to Helton or Rumph experience-wise? No.
apples and oranges.
Expected contractual oversell in progress. Nothing more
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:56 pm to the808bass
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doesn’t miss the most recent one who left.
This is your assumption and not a fact.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:57 pm to navynuke
So Odom is a liar. Got it.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:01 pm to the808bass
If you think Odom didn't give a shite about his Oline coach leaving on the morning 4 oline recruits were hitting campus, fine.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:02 pm to the808bass
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Barry doesn’t trust his own ability to evaluate coaches. He’s fired two a
So he’s fired 2 out of the 11 that he’s hired. That’s a pretty good success rate. He also just had so much success under his watch that they left for promotions elsewhere.
Brown also got a pay raise when he left for Auburn.
It’s just not GP keeping his staff together every year so some fans struggle with that.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:08 pm to navynuke
Handing over one of the top offenses in the country to an unproven GA and everyone is supposed to do back flips?
Value yes. How much value compared to a seasoned OC? Well.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:17 pm to SemperFi
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to an unproven GA
Finley isn't a GA. He is a paid, recruiting assistant and is largely responsible for the rushing concepts that make one of the top offenses in the country work.
He hasn't been hired. He may not get the job. The point is that you can look at film of Heupel's last two years at OU and his one year at Utah State and see that there are few schematic similarities between those teams and what MU is doing.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:19 pm to SemperFi
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unproven GA
Who’s this unproven GA that’s getting the OC position.
Wisconsin hired Leonhard after only 1 season as a full time assistant, it worked out great for them. Sometimes we need to let those with actual access and knowledge make the decisions.
If Finley gets the OC job it’s because BO deemed him qualified.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:38 pm to the808bass
What does Rumph have to do with anything?
Sherrer is going to be the DC at UT. He was previously the LB coach at Georgia.
Sherrer is going to be the DC at UT. He was previously the LB coach at Georgia.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:51 pm to JesusQuintana
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What does Rumph have to do with anything
Well if Pruitt was going to name Rumph DC, he would be ok with it because Rumph has been a position coach since 2002 but has never named the DC without someone above him getting fired mid season.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:01 pm to navynuke
bass used to be a good poster before BO was hired.
I mentioned this previously, but a lot of these guys dig themselves so deep into the ground on this that there really isn't any turning back.
To the point where we are melting over something that hasn't even happened yet.
BO has looked at, and will look at several candidates. If he decides Finley is the right decision then that is who we should hire. If he decides that an outside candidate is better, then that is who we should hire.
He is infinitely more invested in this program than anyone. His vision is the program. He'll decide the best course and he's also infinitely more qualified to make these decisions than anyone.
I mentioned this previously, but a lot of these guys dig themselves so deep into the ground on this that there really isn't any turning back.
To the point where we are melting over something that hasn't even happened yet.
BO has looked at, and will look at several candidates. If he decides Finley is the right decision then that is who we should hire. If he decides that an outside candidate is better, then that is who we should hire.
He is infinitely more invested in this program than anyone. His vision is the program. He'll decide the best course and he's also infinitely more qualified to make these decisions than anyone.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:42 pm to JesusQuintana
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bass used to be a good poster before BO was hired.
You don’t like anyone who doesn’t pretend every move Odom makes is genius. It is what it is. I’m not going to do that.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:01 am to navynuke
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He hasn't been hired. He may not get the job. The point is that you can look at film of Heupel's last two years at OU and his one year at Nevada State and see that there are few schematic similarities between those teams and what MU is doing.
If it was Finley that got Huepel to finally quit throwing the long one-yard sideline out to the WRs every other play, I like Finley's influence on the offense.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 6:47 am to navynuke
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to an unproven GA
Sorry my bad... I can't keep the hold overs separated from the GA's and assistants BO is loading his staff with
Hopefully Ford and Hill can get there annual promotions also.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 7:01 am
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