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Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:32 am
Really? This is unacceptable. I don't care how much we want a new coach, Sumlin doesn't deserve this. Whoever it ends up being, I sure hope it wasn't one of us.
Letter to Sumlin
Letter to Sumlin
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:38 am to lonestar91
Hopefully the TexAgs cabal cam make themselves useful and out the frickwad who sent that.
Just ridiculous. In all the outpouring of displeasure I'd seen all over the internet and in person over the UCLA game, not once had racism even been hinted at. Then this shite happens and gives us a bad name by association
Just ridiculous. In all the outpouring of displeasure I'd seen all over the internet and in person over the UCLA game, not once had racism even been hinted at. Then this shite happens and gives us a bad name by association
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:49 am to lonestar91
It took until now for this to make the Ark?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:51 am to lonestar91
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:53 am to lonestar91
texags will find out who did this, destroy their lives, and i wont feel any sympathy for whomever wrote this
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:11 pm to lonestar91
I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here. The odds that letter originated anywhere other than Sumlin's home are low, and the odds it was written by an Aggie are even lower. Frankly I'm shocked how many don't see right through this. I mean, "or else"? Give me a fricking break Charlene. The stamp isn't even postmarked.
And regardless of where it came from, posting it on Twitter was obviously nothing more than spiteful lashing out against public criticism of his job performance.
And regardless of where it came from, posting it on Twitter was obviously nothing more than spiteful lashing out against public criticism of his job performance.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:15 pm to Roger Klarvin
Roger, are you willing to take the Billy Kennedy butthole challenge on it being fake?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:17 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Fake as in it wasn't written by a racist Aggie? Sure, because it wasn't.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:23 pm to lonestar91
That has hornfan written all over it
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:31 pm to texag7
It's a single-stamp envelope without a postmark. The return address is a Houston country club which held one of Sumlin's coaching dinners during his tenure. It's very clearly female handwriting.
Use your brains guys. Don't fall for this parade of white guilt. You know exactly what this is about.
Use your brains guys. Don't fall for this parade of white guilt. You know exactly what this is about.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:47 pm to Roger Klarvin
I don't feel guilty, I didn't write it. I also think he's still a terrible football coach. I don't think his wife wrote it though, and whoever did write it made it that much harder and more expensive for us to fire him.
Speculating on who wrote it is completely useless honestly because the media narrative is written in stone already and the chances of finding out who did write it are slim to none.
Speculating on who wrote it is completely useless honestly because the media narrative is written in stone already and the chances of finding out who did write it are slim to none.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I'll also mention that word is buyout discussions have been initiated with Sumlin this week.
"Or else"
"Or else"
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:53 pm to Roger Klarvin
And I'm sure they would have been regardless, but this is great leverage for him in those discussions, which sucks. I am just so fricking indifferent to Aggie football right now. I guess it's cool it happened Week 1 so I can enjoy the rest of college football all season without delusions about what we might accomplish then being irrationally pissed when we collapse halfway through the year. But it feels weird having zero excitement whatsoever regarding my team.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I'm with roger, it feels... off.
The handwriting is feminine, not exactly a huge deal by itself but a factor nonetheless.
The letter folded is larger than envelope. Not necessarily a deal breaker either, but suspect.
The wording is awkward. It reads like a child or soccer mom wrote it and the sole intention was to use the n word. Anyone who feels strongly enough about him as a coach or as black man would Say it differently I'd wager.
The postage stamp isn't post marked. It's possible, certainly, but very improbably it ever went through the mail.
Why return address an anonymous hate letter? Why use a prominent country club? You know who's racist? Rich white golfers.
I've seen conflicting info, but many have said that barcode is a precoded return address used by business and public entities. The barcode reader website says that code is the college station address that is attributable to the sumlin residence. Could be the sending code, but that is not the info ppl have been sharing on tRant.
I say all that to say, regardless of sender and intention racism has no place in today's society and it's morally reprehensible. Charlene shouldn't have public ally shared it though, if for no other reason, As she pointed out a child can see it. Despite its authenticity it's a shameless attention grab on her part.
Idk, just none of it feels sincere to me.
The handwriting is feminine, not exactly a huge deal by itself but a factor nonetheless.
The letter folded is larger than envelope. Not necessarily a deal breaker either, but suspect.
The wording is awkward. It reads like a child or soccer mom wrote it and the sole intention was to use the n word. Anyone who feels strongly enough about him as a coach or as black man would Say it differently I'd wager.
The postage stamp isn't post marked. It's possible, certainly, but very improbably it ever went through the mail.
Why return address an anonymous hate letter? Why use a prominent country club? You know who's racist? Rich white golfers.
I've seen conflicting info, but many have said that barcode is a precoded return address used by business and public entities. The barcode reader website says that code is the college station address that is attributable to the sumlin residence. Could be the sending code, but that is not the info ppl have been sharing on tRant.
I say all that to say, regardless of sender and intention racism has no place in today's society and it's morally reprehensible. Charlene shouldn't have public ally shared it though, if for no other reason, As she pointed out a child can see it. Despite its authenticity it's a shameless attention grab on her part.
Idk, just none of it feels sincere to me.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 12:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
I don't believe for one second it was written by an Aggie. Not ready to leap to the conclusion that it was Mrs. Sumlin or something, but this whole thing reeks and is just a cheap, opportunistic shot by someone to cast Ags in a bad light in the wake of our justified meltdown over the UCLA game and Sumlin's tenure.
Just frick it all.
Just frick it all.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:01 pm to Nguyening
Bingo
If it looks, sounds and walks like a duck it's a fricking duck.
If it looks, sounds and walks like a duck it's a fricking duck.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:04 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Yep
I can't definitely say it's "fake", though I have suspicions. I can say with 99% certainty nobody with an Aggie ring wrote that, and any real Aggie would beat the shite out of someone who actually would write that.
I can't definitely say it's "fake", though I have suspicions. I can say with 99% certainty nobody with an Aggie ring wrote that, and any real Aggie would beat the shite out of someone who actually would write that.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
Yeah I'm not on board that Charlene is the culprit, although I don't really have a whole lot of respect for her beyond my Normal minimum for a human/woman/mother.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
I just wanted to coin the term "Billy Kennedy Butthole Challenge" and attribute it to you.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 1:58 pm to lonestar91
Who writes letters anymore? Very odd. Maybe it was a crazy old racist grandma? Also, how are home addresses so easily found? Are the Sumlins listed in the white pages? Also, are white pages still a thing?
Either way, this feeds in to the narrative narrative that America, Texans, and Aggies, are all a bunch of white supremacists. If that letter is real, and I would like to think highly enough of the Sumlins that it is, then I still think it's crass to put it out on social media. It just feeds a narrative that I would hope the Sumlins don't actually believe is true. With all the fake hate crimes surrounding Trump's election, and the perpetrators of the hoaxes usually saying things like, "I just wanted to bring awareness to the issues Muslims/Jews/blacks face because of Trump" even though painting an unrealistic picture of that is vile and disgusting and hurts everyone, that mentality seems to ring true time and time again. I don't think that's the case here, even though I think it's natural for people to draw parallels to that.
My first guess is that Charlene posted this because she knows the criticism around her husband is growing, it's valid, and she saw this as a reason to lash out and go in to bunker down mode without thinking of the implications. She saw a legitimate reason to get mad at the outcries against her husband, and it was probably cathartic to some degree. It wasn't just the racist letter she felt she was using that sassy hashtag on, but every Aggie having a meltdown on TexAgs and the national pundits as well.
Some really old lady on psychotropic drugs probably wrote this and felt great doing it, which is a sad thing, but it's not the end of the world. Sumlin is a black man in America, and he didn't have it easy in this world. That being said, very few of us, even the white ones, have it easy. I'm sure this wasn't the first time he was called that word, and unfortunately it probably won't be the last. However that hasn't, and won't, stop him from being a wildly successful and wealthy man for the rest of his life, and we should all be thankful we live in a country where that is the case.
Either way, this feeds in to the narrative narrative that America, Texans, and Aggies, are all a bunch of white supremacists. If that letter is real, and I would like to think highly enough of the Sumlins that it is, then I still think it's crass to put it out on social media. It just feeds a narrative that I would hope the Sumlins don't actually believe is true. With all the fake hate crimes surrounding Trump's election, and the perpetrators of the hoaxes usually saying things like, "I just wanted to bring awareness to the issues Muslims/Jews/blacks face because of Trump" even though painting an unrealistic picture of that is vile and disgusting and hurts everyone, that mentality seems to ring true time and time again. I don't think that's the case here, even though I think it's natural for people to draw parallels to that.
My first guess is that Charlene posted this because she knows the criticism around her husband is growing, it's valid, and she saw this as a reason to lash out and go in to bunker down mode without thinking of the implications. She saw a legitimate reason to get mad at the outcries against her husband, and it was probably cathartic to some degree. It wasn't just the racist letter she felt she was using that sassy hashtag on, but every Aggie having a meltdown on TexAgs and the national pundits as well.
Some really old lady on psychotropic drugs probably wrote this and felt great doing it, which is a sad thing, but it's not the end of the world. Sumlin is a black man in America, and he didn't have it easy in this world. That being said, very few of us, even the white ones, have it easy. I'm sure this wasn't the first time he was called that word, and unfortunately it probably won't be the last. However that hasn't, and won't, stop him from being a wildly successful and wealthy man for the rest of his life, and we should all be thankful we live in a country where that is the case.
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