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re: Texas or Clemson - which posters are worse on the SEC rant?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:11 pm to Old Sarge
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:11 pm to Old Sarge
Hopefully you do not believe some of the things you write
Texas does not want into the SEC right now because the contract SEC schools have with ESPN no matter who is added the conference cannot take ESPN back to the bargaining table.
This is why ESPN's original plan was to destroy the ACC did not work because the ACC schools did not benefit as much as if they stayed in conference and creating a network but like the SEC the ACC gave away their third tier rights.
Texas wants to stay in the Big XII from what I have seen because then Texas makes the most amount of money but if the Big XII dies than Texas would be going North or West not East.
Texas does not want into the SEC right now because the contract SEC schools have with ESPN no matter who is added the conference cannot take ESPN back to the bargaining table.
This is why ESPN's original plan was to destroy the ACC did not work because the ACC schools did not benefit as much as if they stayed in conference and creating a network but like the SEC the ACC gave away their third tier rights.
Texas wants to stay in the Big XII from what I have seen because then Texas makes the most amount of money but if the Big XII dies than Texas would be going North or West not East.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 2:12 pm
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:22 pm to Montgomery Hill
he cow college in Austin is irrelevant right now
Their influential fans hate it, but no conference wants them
Their influential fans hate it, but no conference wants them
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:25 pm to Old Sarge
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Our little brother waited too long, an invite will never come regardless of how much they beg
Well there are two things to weigh here.
Texas is a big time program. Let us not kid ourselves. Despite their claims they aren't on Mt. Rushmore, but they have some legitimate oomph to them.
Which is more then offset by the fact that they are over entitled douche-bags. Yes, Texas will bring in some TV sets (if you can pry them away from the Longhorn Network) but they make up for it by acting like they are Notre Dame, USCw, and Alabama combined.
Bama is on top in football right now. But we work on a share and share alike basis. That means when Bama has its inevitable decline we will have other teams to fill the void. The SEC is not a one trick pony.
Which is why Texas is a horrible fit for the SEC or, for that matter, the PAC-12. Both conferences have realized that power shifts. Some teams, in some sports, will have better chances to excel. But every school, in some way, contributes to the greater good.
Bama goes tits up in football? We have other programs that can step up. Kentucky turns to poo in basketball? We have other schools that love basketball who can take up the slack until they are back. Same for baseball. Women's basketball. Track. And what have you.
Texas will never see itself as just one of a group of schools that is greater then the sum of its parts. Texas is the worst P5 school in the country. Great sports tradition. Lots of fans. But a complete cancer to whatever conference they are in.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:36 pm to Arksulli
I do not understand how some people who claim to support free market ideas in life supports Marxism/Collectivism in college sports
If capitalism and the free market is good enough for our economy then it is good enough for a conference.
You are comparing Texas to the rich or a corporation. When a supposed socialist like Bernie Sanders says let's redistribute the wealth a lot of people who support collectivism is college sports throws a fit
You calling Texas greedy and a cancer makes you sound a lot like Bernie Sanders
If capitalism and the free market is good enough for our economy then it is good enough for a conference.
You are comparing Texas to the rich or a corporation. When a supposed socialist like Bernie Sanders says let's redistribute the wealth a lot of people who support collectivism is college sports throws a fit
You calling Texas greedy and a cancer makes you sound a lot like Bernie Sanders
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:38 pm to Montgomery Hill
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I do not understand how some people who claim to support free market ideas in life supports Marxism/Collectivism in college sports
If capitalism and the free market is good enough for our economy then it is good enough for a conference.
Call us crazy but people can have differing opinions about how to run a country vs. running a college conference
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:44 pm to rockiee
If you understand F.A Hayek and Milton Friedman then you have to allow everything to be determined by the free market.
Giving each university the same amount of money allows smaller universities to become leeches upon the bigger universities
Giving each university the same amount of money allows smaller universities to become leeches upon the bigger universities
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:57 pm to Montgomery Hill
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I do not understand how some people who claim to support free market ideas in life supports Marxism/Collectivism in college sports
If capitalism and the free market is good enough for our economy then it is good enough for a conference.
You are comparing Texas to the rich or a corporation. When a supposed socialist like Bernie Sanders says let's redistribute the wealth a lot of people who support collectivism is college sports throws a fit
You calling Texas greedy and a cancer makes you sound a lot like Bernie Sanders
Which gives further evidence that you are, in fact, a dumbass.
Because the SEC has diversified we thrive even when one of our top selling products experiences a down time.
There is stupid Capitalism (I'll cut my throat for a profit today!) and smart Capitalism (I'll spread things around so that if one division of my company slows down the others will take up for it).
But you wouldn't get that.
Right now the SEC is making more money then it knows what to do with. Hardly a sign of "collectivism". My God, we are making tons of money... this has to be Communism... something said by nobody.
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest."
We are rich because we know 14 schools united for their own interests are worth more then one program shooting itself in the dick for short term profits. If you think that is Marxism... well you are an idiot.
Son... it is better to have a lot of good products then one great product that might go belly up at any point in time. You won't understand that.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:17 pm to Arksulli
When you begin to see the entire conference as one instead of separate entities than you have in fact became a collective.
col·lec·tive/
adjective
1.
done by people acting as a group.
"a collective protest"
noun
1.
a cooperative enterprise.
A collective is a form of Marxism. You see Arkansas, State and LSU as a part of something larger unlike Texas who sees themselves as a separate entity than Kansas or Oklahoma
col·lec·tive/
adjective
1.
done by people acting as a group.
"a collective protest"
noun
1.
a cooperative enterprise.
A collective is a form of Marxism. You see Arkansas, State and LSU as a part of something larger unlike Texas who sees themselves as a separate entity than Kansas or Oklahoma
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:30 pm to Montgomery Hill
Your ignorance is astounding
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:32 pm to MrMojoRisin
quote:
Texas or Clemson - which posters are worse on the SEC rant
Aggies are way worse then clemson fans
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:34 pm to Old Sarge
Coming from you that may be a compliment
As a supposed owner of a company you should have an opinion on this subject
I do not know what type of business you own but I heard in the past in was some sort of lawnmower shop. Anyway would you pay all of your employees the same no matter how much money they brought into your company or would you adjust their paychecks based on their value to the business
As a supposed owner of a company you should have an opinion on this subject
I do not know what type of business you own but I heard in the past in was some sort of lawnmower shop. Anyway would you pay all of your employees the same no matter how much money they brought into your company or would you adjust their paychecks based on their value to the business
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:37 pm to Montgomery Hill
You are confusing me with another poster
And letting your obvious alter status show again
And letting your obvious alter status show again
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:48 pm to Old Sarge
Sometimes what you say will come back to bite you in the butt
Unless of course you are truthful all the time than you do not have to worry
Truth and Old Sarge is not synonymous so I guess you have to worry about some of your comments coming to bite you in the arse
These last three comments have been bookmarked for future reference
Unless of course you are truthful all the time than you do not have to worry
Truth and Old Sarge is not synonymous so I guess you have to worry about some of your comments coming to bite you in the arse
These last three comments have been bookmarked for future reference
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:51 pm to Montgomery Hill
Hold up, we got a badass over here.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:53 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
sarge better watch it, or else he will get litigated for lying on the internet
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:58 pm to MrMojoRisin
Easy....Texas A&M fans.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:02 pm to Boomer00
You must be Montgomery horn Hills boyfriend?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:05 pm to Montgomery Hill
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A collective is a form of Marxism.
No.
I see us as group of schools who cooperate for their own self interest. Self interest. Sound it out.
The butcher, the brewer, the baker.
You. Cooperate. (big word take your time) With. Others. For. Your. Own. Self. Interest.
Now. Do you grow/hunt/produce everything that you use? No.
You pay. Give (someone) money that is due for work done, goods received, or a debt incurred: for the things you can't or don't want to do.
Do you get that? You pay money to others. You probably don't have any but some of us do. We pay other people for those things.
They do not sell this to us because they are looking out for us, but for their own self interest. By selling us something... cooperating... their self interest is advanced and so is ours.
Why do we spread the money around? Because every school, acting in its own self interest (look that up again), realizes that by offering a varied product we have a better chance of making a profit. You don't get that by starving one division of your company in favor of another.
And we do make a profit. A lot of it. We don't do it because Alabama would be heartbroken if Florida went tits up. Or that Auburn would lay awake at night crying bitter tears if Georgia vanished. It is in our own self interest.
Which you will not get. Capitalism is the ultimate form of... as you called it... "collectivism". Billions of people working to improve themselves improve society as a whole. For their own self interest.
We are all in this together as the SEC not because we love each other and want the rest of us to prosper. But because having everyone else in the SEC prosper helps our own prosperity.
That is capitalism at its most basic. Butcher. Brewer. Baker. We work together because our own self interests are fulfilled.
The SEC is the living and breathing definition of capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.
We are all private owners in our own way. And we make a hell of a lot of profit.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:16 pm to Arksulli
Do you understand the difference between a planned economy and a free market economy.
A planned economy is what the SEC has because prior to the season profits are already determined not by what is produced but by being at the table
A free market economy your output determines the profit so how you finished the season determines how much money is made.
Universities that can cut the cost and finish higher in the standings will make more money unlike universities that have high overhead but do not finish high in the standings
This is capitalism at its best you reward companies who can sell their product and punish ones who cannot
Arkansas is not the SEC and the SEC is not Arkansas. How many times did you say we.
Bama is not you. LSU is not you. When they win you do not win. For whatever reason schools like Ole Miss, State and Arkansas have used others success to mask their lack of success
A planned economy is what the SEC has because prior to the season profits are already determined not by what is produced but by being at the table
A free market economy your output determines the profit so how you finished the season determines how much money is made.
Universities that can cut the cost and finish higher in the standings will make more money unlike universities that have high overhead but do not finish high in the standings
This is capitalism at its best you reward companies who can sell their product and punish ones who cannot
Arkansas is not the SEC and the SEC is not Arkansas. How many times did you say we.
Bama is not you. LSU is not you. When they win you do not win. For whatever reason schools like Ole Miss, State and Arkansas have used others success to mask their lack of success
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:21 pm to texag7
I'd suggest you quit taking the bus then.
Texas is the all time revenue leader in NCAA merchandising and recognized as the most commonly known NCAA sports brand/logo globally.
We suck recently, but the "franchise" is still unparalleled. It's also why I don't fret the down cycles.. just a matter of time til it cycles back up.
History:
Texas will return and Texas A&M was born to lose.
Texas is the all time revenue leader in NCAA merchandising and recognized as the most commonly known NCAA sports brand/logo globally.
We suck recently, but the "franchise" is still unparalleled. It's also why I don't fret the down cycles.. just a matter of time til it cycles back up.
History:
Texas will return and Texas A&M was born to lose.
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