re: Would you be happy with 11-3?

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The problem many had with CMR, myself included and have said as much numerous times on here, is that while an above average recruiter and an outstanding human being, his team's were ALWAYS less than the sum of their parts. He could never get it all together at once.

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I'm not sure i TOTALLY agree, or disagree with what you are saying. I will say this, though....he never got a break. The kind of beak that wins a National Championship. Almost every winner gets one or two lucky breaks a year, that, if they go the other way would keep that team from winning the Natty. For whatever reason, his teams never seemed to get those breaks. It could be because they were not prepared enough. Or just unlucky. But, he had 2 or 3 teams, that, if they had gotten a couple of those breaks could have won a National Championship.

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First couple of years, you give a guy a pass because it's the first couple of years, and he's building a program from scratch.

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I'm not sure we can give Richt OR Smart a pass on this. Both inherited pretty good teams. A decent amount of talent. (I am taking your comment "from scratch" at face value) They may not have had all the pieces they wanted, or they needed to get more of their type of players, but they had a lot of talent on their team.

I understand what you are saying, though. I am saying, and have said often, that while I loved Richt, it appeared as if it was time for him to go. It looked like he would not get over the hump. I also agree, you have to give Smart at least 5 years to show that he can show a lot of improvement with the team.