I'm new to being a fan of a basketball school. I just don't get RPI or KenPom early in the season. It just seems to rely so much on stupid metrics that won't come into play for months, or on expectations.

For example:

49. Arkansas 6-1
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Oklahoma State (47)

62. Georgia 5-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: None

70. Vanderbilt 4-4
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: vs. Bucknell (141)
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Dayton (39), vs. Iowa State (28)

78. Alabama 4-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Oregon (20), vs. Clemson (36)

91. LSU 5-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Texas Tech (37)

95. Tennessee 3-3
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ North Carolina (3), vs. Gonzaga (14), vs. Kansas State (34)

100. Ole Miss 6-2
Good Wins: None
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: @ Virginia Tech (33), vs. Baylor (11)

105. Auburn 6-1
Good Wins: Texas Tech (37)
Bad Losses: None
Remaining Top 50 OOC Games: Oklahoma (42), @ TCU (45)

Honestly, what am I supposed to take away from this?

I'm not convinced AU is better than those teams, but I'm certainly not convinced that 4-3 Alabama with no good wins is 27 spots ahead of us.

Nor am I convinced that our win over Texas Tech is a good win.

Someone explain this shite to me.

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Posted by volfan30

Member since Jun 2010

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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:33 pm to Pettifogger

KenPom is predictive (whereas the RPI is not) thus it is much less prone to fluctuations. By February though KenPom is straight data with no predictions or other weights.

For example the top 10 in KenPom is
Villanova
Duke
UNC
Kentucky
Kansas
Virginia
Louisville
Wisconsin
West Virginia
St. Mary's

RPI Top 10
Baylor
Creighton
Florida
Villanova
St. Mary's
TCU
Gonzaga
Minnesota
MTSU
Xavier

Obviously the KenPom Top 10 is much more like the polls and much closer to what the RPI Top 10 will likely be by the end of the season.

KenPom is basically a running 1-351 power ranking that is updated with data from every game and adjusted dynamically.

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Posted by GameCocky88

Mount Pleasant, SC

Member since Dec 2015

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Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:51 pm to Pettifogger

Yeah I don't necessarily get it either, I use whatever method puts my team in the best light or trolls someone else, as any sensible ranter would. It is nice to know that we have two wins that are better than everyone else's wins though.

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Posted by REBSontheRISE

Member since Nov 2008

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Posted on 12/5/16 at 7:13 pm to Pettifogger

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Honestly, what am I supposed to take away from this? I'm not convinced AU is better than those teams, but I'm certainly not convinced that 4-3 Alabama with no good wins is 27 spots ahead of us.

I don't understand it either. Auburn is 21 in RPI, for what it is worth. makes more sense than KenPom right now.

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