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A&M Quarterbacks through 8 games since 2012

Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:26 pm
Johnny Manziel (2012): 6-2 (4-2) after 8 games

173-279-6, 2216 yards, 16 Touchdowns
117 carries, 793 yards, 13 Touchdowns

Johnny Manziel (2013): 6-2 (4-2) after 8 games

184-252-8, 2594 yards, 22 Touchdowns
89 carries, 497 yards, 5 Touchdowns

Kenny Hill (2014): 5-3 (3-3) after 8 games

204-321-7, 2649 yards, 23 Touchdowns
52 carries, 156 yards, 0 Touchdowns

Kyle Allen (2015): 5-2 (3-2) after 7 games (did not play in game 8)

121-213-6, 1625 yards, 14 Touchdowns
50 carries, 107 yards, 2 Touchdowns

Trevor Knight (2016): 7-1 (4-1) after 8 games

144-270-6, 1868 yards, 13 Touchdowns
83 carries, 529 yards, 9 Touchdowns
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:29 pm to
Trill
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:35 pm to
So strange. I was just about to do this thread, but decided not to.

While 2014 looks nice, we all know the wheels fall off and the numbers don't loos so good by the end of it. I feel comfortable saying 2016 = best production from the QB spot since Johnny.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23347 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:56 pm to
IMO... Johnny in 2012 was also blessed with easily the best run defense we have had since joining the SEC. We had a pretty stout run defense. Our pass defense was not good as evidenced by the shootout vs La Tech in Shreveport.

Just an observation.


Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

IMO... Johnny in 2012 was also blessed with easily the best run defense we have had since joining the SEC.


That's also deceptive.

We only played 3 good teams in the 2012 regular season and lost to 2 of them. (Florida, LSU)

4 out of the first 7 teams we've played this season would mercilessly rape most of our 2012 schedule.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:41 pm to
State and La Tech were okay. They both struggled down the stretch.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23347 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

That's also deceptive.

We only played 3 good teams in the 2012 regular season and lost to 2 of them. (Florida, LSU)

4 out of the first 7 teams we've played this season would mercilessly rape most of our 2012 schedule


Are you saying the 2012 team did or didn't have easily the best run defense of any team we have had since joining the SEC? To be clear, I said we were not good at pass defense in 2012 that's why La Tech scored in the 50s.

Our 2012 defense was pretty good against the run. Our pass defense was poor... basically a continuation of our last year in the Big 12. SEC teams in 2012 not geared toward our weakness in the secondary. La Tech and then Ole Miss were the best 2 passing teams we faced.



Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:31 pm to
Opponents' Rushing Offense (2012)

#16 Alabama - 31 carries, 122 yards
#17 Louisiana Tech - 42 carries, 165 yards
#39 Florida - 48 carries, 142 yards
#49 Ole Miss - 44 carries, 159 yards
#50 LSU - 45 carries, 219 yards
#78 Auburn - 34 carries, 124 yards
#82 Mississippi State - 27 carries, 98 yards
#88 Missouri - 36 carries, 189 yards
#93 SMU - 25 carries, 106 yards
#104 Arkansas - 39 carries, 142 yards

We played 2 FCS schools that season.

Opponents' Rushing Offense (2016, teams still remaining in italics)

#3 Auburn - 54 carries, 236 yards
#9 Alabama - 57 carries, 287 yards
#19 LSU
#38 Mississippi State
#69 Tennessee - 51 carries, 282 yards
#80 UTSA
#83 Arkansas - 40 carries, 120 yards
#94 Ole Miss
#110 New Mexico State
#122 South Carolina - 35 carries, 161 yards
#128 UCLA - 40 carries, 125 yards
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 5:08 pm to
Can you imagine if we had Mike Evans this year
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21640 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Can you imagine if we had Mike Evans this year


We wouldn't get him the ball too?

I'll take it a step further...imagine if we had JFF this year, and Mazzone made him run more?
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:52 pm to
I would settle for Tannehill or a healthy Johnson.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:54 pm to
adding Mike Evans to this team would be better than adding Johnny
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

adding Mike Evans to this team would be better than adding Johnny



No Sir. No matter how great Evans would be, he still couldn't solve Trevor's inaccuracy. A semi accurate QB who still has Trevor's run game is the thing to turns this offense into something special.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21640 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

adding Mike Evans to this team would be better than adding Johnny




Look, jff is a frick-up, But that boy balled out for the fighting Texas Aggies. I love Evans, but there's no chance he would have the ability to impact the game like a qb of johnnys caliber. If you were to tell me you'd take Evans over Allen, then yeah I'm with ya.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:04 pm to
I take Knight over Allen.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 11:07 am to
Related to Trill:

quote:

The easy thing is to blame Hill with his nine interceptions.....

“We need to play with more swagger,” Patterson said....

“I said going into the season that we need to grow up,” Patterson said. “Well, to be honest with you, we need to grow up.”



LINK

took the Swag with him I guess.
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
998 posts
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Look, jff is a frick-up, But that boy balled out for the fighting Texas Aggies. I love Evans, but there's no chance he would have the ability to impact the game like a qb of johnnys caliber. If you were to tell me you'd take Evans over Allen, then yeah I'm with ya.


If we had Johnny, we're undefeated. If we have any other QB of the last 30 years, we're probably 6-2 or 5-3.

TK's mobility, strength, and decision-making far outweigh his ability to hit a precision 20 yard crossing route.

Not that it wouldn't be great to have him throw a few darts, too.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:21 am to
Reggie would have balled in this offense.
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