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Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:37 pm
From a Bruce Feldman article on FoxSports:
What does't that even mean? Struggling with who?? The players? The Administration? The rest of the coaching staff?
Just seems like vague click-bait to me that really has no real substance. I would expect more from Feldman
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Word is first-year Georgia head coach Kirby Smart is struggling with his overall management style of the football program and its effect on the operational aspect of the team. The Bulldogs are 3-2, and though this is a rebuilding project where the Nick Saban disciple has an inexperienced true freshman QB, an underwhelming O-line and only one starter back in his front seven, this is an issue worth keeping eye on.
What does't that even mean? Struggling with who?? The players? The Administration? The rest of the coaching staff?
Just seems like vague click-bait to me that really has no real substance. I would expect more from Feldman
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:39 pm to King of Cloverhurst
Kirby isn't struggling with it.
Wilkerson is.
But not for long...
ETA if Tenn drops the hail mary, which is the likely result 9/10 times, this article doesn't get written.
It's pure horse shite.
Wilkerson is.
But not for long...
ETA if Tenn drops the hail mary, which is the likely result 9/10 times, this article doesn't get written.
It's pure horse shite.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:40 pm to King of Cloverhurst
With the Reggie Wilkerson screen shot and the rumblings about upperclassmen not buying in I guess he is alluding to not having all of the players on board and struggling to keep team unity. If that is the case, the freshman class showed enough on saturdayto make me think that grandpa Time will sort these issues out for Kirby soon enough.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:47 pm to Hobnail
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rumblings about upperclassmen not buying in
Smart probably has higher expectations/demands than the former regime. If you don't want to be in Athens playing for UGA then transfer and GTFO.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:56 pm to King of Cloverhurst
Many people these day are idiots, and the 24/7 social media era we live in doesn't help.
I don't care if we were 5-0 or 1-4...you can't tell jack shite about a 1st year coach adn his staff halfway thorugh his first year. It will be 3 years before we really know the book on Kirby. Sure we'll know about his game management and all that, but you can't ultimatley judge a guy utnil he gets his players in. You just can't.
I don't care if we were 5-0 or 1-4...you can't tell jack shite about a 1st year coach adn his staff halfway thorugh his first year. It will be 3 years before we really know the book on Kirby. Sure we'll know about his game management and all that, but you can't ultimatley judge a guy utnil he gets his players in. You just can't.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:01 pm to King of Cloverhurst
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Word is first-year Georgia head coach Kirby Smart is struggling with his overall management style of the football program and its effect on the operational aspect of the team.
Sounds about right to me.
The lack of objectivity on this board is frightening. It's all right in front of your faces. But you either can't see it, or you simply refuse to admit it..
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:07 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
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If you don't want to be in Athens playing for UGA then transfer and GTFO.
But Kirby won't let them transfer.
He's keeping them as slaves.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:08 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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The lack of objectivity on this board is frightening. It's all right in front of your faces. But you either can't see it, or you simply refuse to admit it..
Wait, you mean a first year coach is having some growing pains with a team featuring a freshman QB and the worst senior class in years at UGA?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:14 pm to Crowknowsbest
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you mean a first year coach is having some growing pains with a team featuring a freshman QB and the worst senior class in years at UGA?
This thread is about his management style and its shortcomings. Not him being a victim of somebody's recruiting class or a freshman QB...
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:23 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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This thread is about his management style and its shortcomings.
Please, tell me more about his management style and its shortcomings.
From my view:
-He's recruiting well (not a shortcoming)
-Overhauled the S&C, nutrition, and player development depts. (not a shortcoming)
-He cobbled together a few transfers and a late signee to help out (not a shortcoming)
-He hates Chip Towers (not a shortcoming in my view, but he should handle him better)
-He doesn't allow free transfers (not my favorite, but I get it. Most don't)
-He should take more responsibility in PCs (a shortcoming, but not a significant one yet, needs to be more media savvy in general)
-Reggie Wilkerson doesn't like him (don't care)
Seems to me like he's just a lot different than Richt, and everyone (including Smart) has some adjustments to make.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:24 pm to deeprig9
Wilkerson's arse needs to be thrown off the team! In a positive spin it frees up one more scholly for recruiting. Maybe a freakin kicker worth a damn.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:28 pm to deeprig9
The "rumblings" about a lack of buy-in from upperclassmen is a natural result of having their 3rd or 4th coordinator in as many years. Just when you learn one guy's system, make your impression, earn your spot, all of a sudden you have to start over.
Three times. Four times.
A kid that age can get discouraged. You aren't going to get buy-in from all of them. The mentally weak will fall by the wayside.
This has nothing to do with Kirby's lack of operational management. It's a reality of too much coaching turnover too fast.
ETA-- today's juniors, Richt's recruits, next year will be seniors, and I can guarantee you there won't be any issues with buy in. Any kid that isn't getting with the program by end of this season will be gone. It's what the beginning stages of The Process look like.
Three times. Four times.
A kid that age can get discouraged. You aren't going to get buy-in from all of them. The mentally weak will fall by the wayside.
This has nothing to do with Kirby's lack of operational management. It's a reality of too much coaching turnover too fast.
ETA-- today's juniors, Richt's recruits, next year will be seniors, and I can guarantee you there won't be any issues with buy in. Any kid that isn't getting with the program by end of this season will be gone. It's what the beginning stages of The Process look like.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:40 pm to King of Cloverhurst
I thought the same thing. I get there's been growing pains and I won't act like it's impossible he's struggling but this article was a paragraph of fluff. No substance at all. It was just Feldman saying "hey, there's rumblings that Kirby is struggling". Hope he didn't burn himself dealing out that hot take.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:05 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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This thread is about his management style and its shortcomings
Of course, personnel impacts management style - there is no one-size-fits-all approach.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:10 pm to Damn Good Dawg
While there might be something going on, this article has zero source. "Rumblings" don't fricking cut it imo. Deff not enough for a major sports writier to throw out there. This type of shite can be used in negative recruiting too.
I think we all know Kirby's "Management Style" is developing, because he has never done it before. Most understand there will be growing pains and casualties.
This should have never been written, because its all speculation.
I think we all know Kirby's "Management Style" is developing, because he has never done it before. Most understand there will be growing pains and casualties.
This should have never been written, because its all speculation.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:11 pm to Crowknowsbest
-He's very immature. When things are going his way like UNC, he's childlike jumping around like a fool. When things aren't going his way like ole miss, he sulks and pouts.
-when things work out, everyone is his best friend. When they don't work out, everyone is to blame but himself.
-as you said, he needs to take more responsibility in press conferences. He's very careless about calling players out.
-he's a syllabus follower. And while his syllabus is thorough, it's built for a different animal.
-Wilkerson insta-tweet...Sorry, but where there's smoke there's fire
-I honestly don't think he has any idea why his players didn't show up for Nicholls state or why they quit against ole miss. That's the scariest part.
-He's a micro-manager.
-He has someone assigned to stand behind him and hold his belt to keep him from running on field and getting penalty. But simultaneously demands self-control and discipline from his players.
-overall I just don't see him as a leader yet. Seems like he's trying to do it all himself. And that won't work.
I like Kirby. But like you said, he's got a lot of adjustments to make. Hopefully he sees that and doesn't just keep beating everything and everyone over the head with his replicator syllabus..
-when things work out, everyone is his best friend. When they don't work out, everyone is to blame but himself.
-as you said, he needs to take more responsibility in press conferences. He's very careless about calling players out.
-he's a syllabus follower. And while his syllabus is thorough, it's built for a different animal.
-Wilkerson insta-tweet...Sorry, but where there's smoke there's fire
-I honestly don't think he has any idea why his players didn't show up for Nicholls state or why they quit against ole miss. That's the scariest part.
-He's a micro-manager.
-He has someone assigned to stand behind him and hold his belt to keep him from running on field and getting penalty. But simultaneously demands self-control and discipline from his players.
-overall I just don't see him as a leader yet. Seems like he's trying to do it all himself. And that won't work.
I like Kirby. But like you said, he's got a lot of adjustments to make. Hopefully he sees that and doesn't just keep beating everything and everyone over the head with his replicator syllabus..
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:18 pm to King of Cloverhurst
These are just growing pains of a first year head coach. Nothing more. Remember when Richt had problems with clock management because he was also the O.C.?
They figure it out.
They figure it out.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:23 pm to stinkdawg
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member when Richt had problems with clock management
He got that figured out finally??
Sorry, I love CMR, but man he was always bad at clock management!
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:27 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I'm not talking specifically to/about you Jeff since I see these comments elsewhere but I want to address some:
I think it's odd that so many people criticized richt for being constantly stoic and uninterested-looking and now kirby is being criticized for being too animated.
I've heard kirby take lots of blame for things the staff needs to do better. And I've also heard him call players out, and I'm glad. Sometimes people need to be called out for not doing what they've been instructed to do.
For one, that syllabus is a proven winner so I'm glad he's got the cheat sheet. And while it's for a different animal, in a year we'll be closer to that animal. 2 years and we're rolling. And we HAVE seen him adapt the syllabus. After 4 games we realized our blocking scheme sucked so we changed it. That's progress.
waht fire would that be, that guys think they should be playing that aren't? Who cares? If RW was good enough to see the field over parish/smith/baker he would be. Coaches don't just pick people at random to play.
so do other coaches
If our players had more self-control and discipline UT isn't in range for the game winning pass. Maybe he's onto something.
It's been 5 games. Lots of people have bought in. Some haven't. It's natural with a regime change. I'm not really sweating it.
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When things are going his way like UNC, he's childlike jumping around like a fool. When things aren't going his way like ole miss, he sulks and pouts.
I think it's odd that so many people criticized richt for being constantly stoic and uninterested-looking and now kirby is being criticized for being too animated.
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When they don't work out, everyone is to blame but himself.
I've heard kirby take lots of blame for things the staff needs to do better. And I've also heard him call players out, and I'm glad. Sometimes people need to be called out for not doing what they've been instructed to do.
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he's a syllabus follower. And while his syllabus is thorough, it's built for a different animal.
For one, that syllabus is a proven winner so I'm glad he's got the cheat sheet. And while it's for a different animal, in a year we'll be closer to that animal. 2 years and we're rolling. And we HAVE seen him adapt the syllabus. After 4 games we realized our blocking scheme sucked so we changed it. That's progress.
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-Wilkerson insta-tweet...Sorry, but where there's smoke there's fire
waht fire would that be, that guys think they should be playing that aren't? Who cares? If RW was good enough to see the field over parish/smith/baker he would be. Coaches don't just pick people at random to play.
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He has someone assigned to stand behind him and hold his belt to keep him from running on field and getting penalty
so do other coaches
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simultaneously demands self-control and discipline from his players.
If our players had more self-control and discipline UT isn't in range for the game winning pass. Maybe he's onto something.
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overall I just don't see him as a leader yet.
It's been 5 games. Lots of people have bought in. Some haven't. It's natural with a regime change. I'm not really sweating it.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 2:29 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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When things aren't going his way like ole miss, he sulks and pouts.
I actually thought he was trying to hard to remain composed in that game. Unnaturally so.
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Wilkerson insta-tweet...Sorry, but where there's smoke there's fire
There will always be a few unhappy players. I haven't seen any kind of widespread lack of buy-in.
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-He's a micro-manager.
Maybe with the defense, but I actually think he's been surprisingly hands-off with Chaney and Eason on offense. For example, Muschamp at UF was never letting their QBs throw the ball as much as we are, make checks at the line, etc., especially with a freshman QB.
I'm ok with him micro-managing the defense.
My only clear issue with him so far is media relations, but that isn't something that he can't improve.
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