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re: 20/20 hindsight: Should UGA should have hired an OC to be head coach?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:50 pm to FaCubeItches
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:50 pm to FaCubeItches
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And the Zen Master said: "We'll see."
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:53 pm to TrackDawg
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The one HC we hired in the last 15 years set a trend?
I think that is what I was insinuating. Richt was the popular young coach, and now Smart is.
I'm not sure what your point is, though. is it that we haven't hired enough coaches to see a trend, or what?
And by the way.....I was thinking Smart was hired....and Richt. Wouldn't that be two?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:01 pm to djsdawg
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What did you expect?
I know we have gone over this time and time again....but we were told last year that a mediocre coach could win 10 games every year at Georgia because of the talent and we play in the East.
Now we don't have any talent and the East is a really tough division?
We were also told that Smart would have our team ready and we would not see a repeat of Alabama and Georgia Southern.
Now we have Ole Miss and Nicholls?
I don't agree with all the Smart bashing....but I also don't agree with the double talking and crawfishing our fan base is doing right now. People held Richt up to unrealistic expectations and now are not holding Smart up to expectations aof any kind.
Does he need time? Absolutely! But the team was not
prepared for Ole Miss and we were not prepared for Nicholls, of all teams. Our running game has taken a step back from last year when our best running back was hurt, and we lost one OL. We have a better QB. better Offensive Coordinator. Better HC (Supposedly/Hopefully) Better OL Coach. We brought in a killer recruiting class. But the only thing people can do is point fingers at Mark Richt and try to shame anybody who dares say something negative about the way the team has looked and played in half of our games.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:15 pm to DawgsLife
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People held Richt up to unrealistic expectations and now are not holding Smart up to expectations aof any kind
Richt in year 15 absolutely should have been held to a higher standard than Smart in year 1.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:28 pm to DawgsLife
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But the only thing people can do is point fingers at Mark Richt
Thats because he is responsible for the roster limitations we currently have. This is a bed he made, but Smart has to sleep in it.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:03 pm to Lucius Clay
Kirby will be fine. This team has deficiencies in key spots. We'll fix that over time.
Bottom line- CMR was never going to get us an SEC OL. By the time he left it was impossible as every coach was negative recruiting our lack of OL success.
Bottom line- CMR was never going to get us an SEC OL. By the time he left it was impossible as every coach was negative recruiting our lack of OL success.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:06 pm to VADawg
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Richt in year 15 absolutely should have been held to a higher standard than Smart in year 1.
Really? reasonable....except when you factor in Nicholls. Do you have any idea how bad Nicholls is?
It's a nice talking point until you realize that Nicholls was something like 8-32 the last 3 seasons (And this) against small schools.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:09 pm to djsdawg
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Thats because he is responsible for the roster limitations we currently have. This is a bed he made, but Smart has to sleep in it.
But Nicholls? Really? Our practice squad and red shirts should have been able to beat them easily. Never mind the total disorganization that happened at Ole Miss. Seriously....you have no blame at all to lay at the feet of Smart for Ole Miss and Nicholls? It's all on Richt?
By the way...I wasn't necessarily talking about you with the finger pointing. Some on here have been much worse.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:11 pm to WorkinDawg
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Kirby will be fine. This team has deficiencies in key spots. We'll fix that over time.
Those deficiencies aren't nearly as bad as some on here are making them out to be. Check out Deeprigs threads about the top teams in the SEC and how many players are at each position and the talent levels at those positions. I think the numbers surprised a LOT of people.....yes, even on the much maligned OL and WR's.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:16 pm to DawgsLife
The OL and WR aren't performing, that much is true.
Rig didnt go into enough detail for me to find much meaning in that analysis, and he was wrong on Gaillard's rating. 4 star can mean you are top 50 or it can mean you are top 300. Big difference.
Rig didnt go into enough detail for me to find much meaning in that analysis, and he was wrong on Gaillard's rating. 4 star can mean you are top 50 or it can mean you are top 300. Big difference.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:20 pm to DawgsLife
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Never mind the total disorganization that happened at Ole Miss. Seriously....you have no blame at all to lay at the feet of Smart for Ole Miss and Nicholls? It's all on Richt?
Ole Miss' strengths perfectly aligned with our weakness'. If Richt was here, the same thing would have occurred because of that.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:25 pm to DawgsLife
UGA was not prepared to play OM or Nicholls.
This is the least talented UGA team since the 90s, especially when you take experience into account.
Both of those things can be true.
This is the least talented UGA team since the 90s, especially when you take experience into account.
Both of those things can be true.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:34 pm to djsdawg
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The OL and WR aren't performing, that much is true.
I am more inclined to say that about the WR. WAY too many dropped balls. Seems to be an epidemic around the league this year.
The OL? I'm more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. They are mostly playing new positions and being outnumbered in the box.
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Rig didnt go into enough detail for me to find much meaning in that analysis, and he was wrong on Gaillard's rating. 4 star can mean you are top 50 or it can mean you are top 300. Big difference.
I think that was more me, than him. )Gaillard) he said Gaillard was a 5* on the DL, and I said since he was moved to the OL and was already playing it would be reasonable to mark him at 4*. It really isn't reasonable, because I have no idea how the services get their ratings. I was just going by his athleticism, but you can't really transfer abilities from one side of the ball to the other.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:36 pm to Crowknowsbest
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This is the least talented UGA team since the 90s, especially when you take experience into account.
It may not be the least talented, but it is certainly the least experienced. We simply don't have a lot of Jr/Sr leadership out there thanks to the 2013/2014 classes being busts.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:37 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Both of those things can be true.
I can agree with this. And, I have been critical of Richt on certain things. My problem is everybody pointing fingers solely at Richt, and they can't imagine how anybody would criticize Smart for the performance against Nicholls. Honestly, even though we got trucked by Ole Miss, i can almost give him a pass on that. But I am usually too soft on coaches.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:38 pm to WorkinDawg
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but it is certainly the least experienced.
We have an awful lot of freshmen out there, that's for sure. Hopefully it pays off in the coming years.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:40 pm to djsdawg
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Ole Miss' strengths perfectly aligned with our weakness'. If Richt was here, the same thing would have occurred because of that.
I can see that. Maybe not against Nicholls, but Richt did tend to get beat badly by excellent teams.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:41 pm to Lucius Clay
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20/20 hindsight: Should UGA should have hired an OC to be head coach?
No, you don't hire a HC just because he's OC or a DC. You hire the guy with proven experience who learned his trade from a master within a winning program which is why we hired Kirby Smart. Smart was under Saban as an Assistant HC/DC for 8 years. During that time he won a Browles Award in 2009 and was Assistant Coach of the Year in 2012. He was part of 4 National Championships during his time at Alabama. In short, he knows what he is doing.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 3:44 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Jefferson Dawg
I agree with your entire post.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 5:30 pm to Crowknowsbest
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This is the least talented UGA team since the 90s, especially when you take experience into account.
Where were all these opinions a month ago?Can't recall one
I saw several that were worried about D-line depth and perhaps
a little worried about replacing Floyd and Jenkins but acknowledged
how talented we were with our younger LB's. Saw few if any
on this site worried about the secondary talent especially after we got Smith
from Bama.
There's NOT ONE person here that talked about the roster being the "worst in
20 years" or the "worst since 2000" before the season
started.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 9:45 pm
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