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With Freeze asking for depo to be sealed, will the NCAA wait?
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:04 pm
I think they will rule on the current NOA and treat the new issue as a separate issue.
That would place them in serious jepordary of repeat offender status.
That would place them in serious jepordary of repeat offender status.
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:06 pm to Jjdoc
The NCAA has not had teeth for quite some time.
Almost nothing will come out of all this. Or at least not much compared to what people around here are waiting for.
Almost nothing will come out of all this. Or at least not much compared to what people around here are waiting for.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:06 pm to Jjdoc
He wants it to be sealed, and the NCAA would be stupid to not attempt to look at it.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:09 pm to MoreOrLes
Disagree. 2 of the largest show causes in history within the last year.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:12 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Yeah - I hate when that shite happens.
jepordary of repeat offender status.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:13 pm to Cobrasize
Agreed. But will the ncaa wait to rule until that happens or treat it separately? Both are a huge issue. Treating it separately is worse though.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:16 pm to Jjdoc
They haven't handed down a ruling. How does that constitute a repeat offender?
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:22 pm to KTownRebel
...... that's what the thread is about. Will they rule or wait until the judge decides on whether or not to seal his depo.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:40 pm to KTownRebel
It's a technicality. Basically do they just add that to the current NOA, or since the situation was brought to light weeks after the initial NOA was delivered does it get its own NOA. Clearly it would be better for Ole Miss to have it prolonged and added to the current NOA rather than getting a second NOA including repeat offender status.
The company I work for has a policy that if you get a disciplinary action once you are notified any further actions from that point are separate and would constitute as a second offense.
I don't see it being that big of an issue for Ole Miss. The only way it would really be a problem is if the NCAA were lied to during the previous investigation. Seeing that the NOA doesn't really look like the draft day Tunsil info was in there, that could be a worry unless the NCAA just didn't specifically ask if improper benefits were given to him by any of the staff.
The company I work for has a policy that if you get a disciplinary action once you are notified any further actions from that point are separate and would constitute as a second offense.
I don't see it being that big of an issue for Ole Miss. The only way it would really be a problem is if the NCAA were lied to during the previous investigation. Seeing that the NOA doesn't really look like the draft day Tunsil info was in there, that could be a worry unless the NCAA just didn't specifically ask if improper benefits were given to him by any of the staff.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:47 pm to aerodawg
The NCAA got in trouble (internally) before for trying to use civil depositions for rules enforcement. I don't expect that they are purposely trying to go down that road ever again. That being said if they are informed that he has testified under oath in a way that is substantially different from his statements to the NCAA I expect he'd see a 10.1 violation (think Tressell) immediately regardless of where the Ole Miss situation is in the process. Unless he just spills all the beans (his lawyers, yes plural, dude makes $4 mil a year for a $250 million entity, he will have a team of suits and they will try to object to 95% of the questions anyway so he won't even have the chance in a first depo). Freeze could be effected personally,many it's embarrassing to him and the school but even if he drew a map of where money came from in that depo I don't think the NCAA would use it unless they already had the info. They treat that stuff like an "illegal search" in criminal law
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:55 pm to Jjdoc
Hugh Freeze would have asked to not be deposed in this garbage case even if there were no NCAA investigation. His lawyers used that to help leverage the judge to agree. You guys are foolish to think Freeze would implicate himself or that he even could. The irony of all these ridiculous posts is that supposedly the Rebels fans are melting when, in fact, it's the rest of you who are.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:58 pm to VivaZapata27
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Hugh Freeze would have asked to not be deposed in this garbage case even if there were no NCAA investigation. His lawyers used that to help leverage the judge to agree. You guys are foolish to think Freeze would implicate himself or that he even could. The irony of all these ridiculous posts is that supposedly the Rebels fans are melting when, in fact, it's the rest of you who are.
You just admitted to a ton of cheating during the Freeze era when Ole Miss fans were all adament that it had nothing to do with him, and nothing would come of all of this.
And the Tunsil stuff isn't even dealt with yet.
But it's the rest of us melting for talking about it.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:04 pm to RTRLSD
We admitted to, and self reported, the same kind of violations that every other school has to self report on a yearly basis. The bad thing for guys like you is that, even with the cooperation of a very motivated insider, the worst violation that can be traced to our coaching staff is that we gave room and board to Lindsay Miller on a recruiting trip before he was technically a member of Laremys family. Come on man.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:10 pm to VivaZapata27
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We admitted to, and self reported, the same kind of violations that every other school has to self report on a yearly basis. The bad thing for guys like you is that, even with the cooperation of a very motivated insider, the worst violation that can be traced to our coaching staff is that we gave room and board to Lindsay Miller on a recruiting trip before he was technically a member of Laremys family. Come on man.
Seriously. So coaches meeting with a recruit in their home, with a booster that pays the kids cell bill and the Mommas phone bill isn't a serious violation?
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:24 pm to VivaZapata27
Weren't there five (5) level 1 (the worst kind) violations?
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:26 pm to Jjdoc
My question is how can the NCAA consider Ole Miss as cooperating while they are obviously at the same time trying to withhold information.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:28 pm to bbvdd
Two involving our current coaching staff. One of which will almost certainly be changed to level two. The other will be mitigated. But we forfeited eleven schollies and got three years probation. That's no small thing.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:28 pm to Blawdawg
That's not accurate. They got in trouble for using an attorney to gather information by asking questions during the miami investigation.
The ncaa can use court documents.
The ncaa can use court documents.
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:30 pm to VivaZapata27
No no... not 2 involving your current coach. Look again
Posted on 5/28/16 at 7:31 pm to Jjdoc
Several relate to boosters and previous staff. Free lodging and impermissible recruiting. 2
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 7:35 pm
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