arky fans, how big of a loss do you think Malik monk will be?

Let's play guess the alter.

My guess would be ukwildcat.

You can't lose something you never had.

There was a young man in one of my classes in college (this is no shite) that had no arms. He took notes with his feet, held a pen between his toes. (There were no digital recorders etc. back in the late 70's).
Someone asked him if he missed having arms (a real dumbass asked this). The young man just looked at him and said, as posted above, "You don't miss what you never had."

Would have enjoyed having Monk on the team, but he would have been gone before you knew it. He will only be at KY for a year.

He will not have a legacy in Arkansas, his home state. Nobody will much care how he does in the pro's. He will be largely forgotten here. Already is to some degree.

Overall, not that big of a loss. He never won a state championship in Arkansas, and probably won't win a national championship in college at KY, probably wouldn't at Arkansas. So it's not going to make much difference in the Arkansas program, only difference it is going to make is how he is remembered in Arkansas.

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2, 4, & 7 perhaps?

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LOL, thinking the same thing, he just posted the picture with the actual numbers right there and he still got it wrong.

And relying on JUCOs is a slippery slope, they are routinely very overrated and rarely pan out.

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if you guys think you'll be fine.

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I would invite you to take a casual read of our board if you want the answer to this.

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LOL, thinking the same thing, he just posted the picture with the actual numbers right there and he still got it wrong.

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Actually I am right, 247 updates player pages before team pages. They are in fact, #1, #4, and #6 overall. LINK

I just wasn't going to screenshot every single individual players page, crop it, and upload it, just to post on here in a troll thread when I had that one from a few months ago.

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Barford is the TCCAA Player of the Year. He has a grade of 94 with the 247Composite, No. 1 junior college player, No. 1 combo guard and No. 1 junior college recruit in Tennessee. He signed with Arkansas on Nov. 13.

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Holmes (Miss.) Community College shooting guard Daryl Macon is also a 4-star. He is ranked the nation's No. 4 junior college player with the 247Composite.

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And relying on JUCOs is a slippery slope

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This is also funny because 2 of LSU's Top 3 commits are JUCO's (#11 and #22 overall however).

Thank you for your interest in Razorback Athletics.

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Actually I am right, 247 updates player pages before team pages. They are in fact, #1, #4, and #6 overall. LINK

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Well, now you're taking the 247 rankings, not the COMPOSITE rankings which is what you posted a picture of I believe.

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This is also funny because 2 of LSU's Top 3 commits are JUCO's (#11 and #22 overall however).

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Yeah and that's why we know our coach is about to be run out of town, your's is on a eerily similar slope if he doesn't hit it big next season. Fact is JUCOs rarely live up to the billing, it wouldn't surprise me at all if only 1 of those 3 guys turned out to be any good. Look at 247's JUCO rankings the last couple years and found out how many of their Top 10 made ANY impact and some of the best ones were guys who averaged like 10-11 points per game. To me, if you want to give a JUCO a 4-star ranking, he better make a big impact right away. Not rot away on the bench for a year or put up "okay" numbers.

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This is very false, you are basing this more off football JUCO's than basketball and it's obvious. Top JUCO's in hoops generally do quite well.

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Let's take a look at the immediate impact the 4-star JUCOs made on 247's list for this past season (LINK ):

1. PG Dominic Artis - UTEP
11.9 ppg, 5 reb, 5 ast, 2 TO; 40% FG, 33% 3pt
- Verdict: Good numbers, solid player, nothing special

2. SG T.J. Dunans - Auburn
11.6 ppg, 3 reb, 3 ast, 3 TO; 46% FG, 33% 3pt
- Verdict: Okay numbers for SG, not a strong 3 point shooter, but shoots well from floor overall

3. C Akolda Manyang - Oklahoma
2.5 ppg, 2 reb, 1 ast, 1 blk, 1 TO; 47% FG
- Verdict: Cant even get minutes on a team that has no big man depth

4. SF Luis Montero - Went Pro

5. PF Igor Ibaka - Oklahoma State
1 ppg, 1 reb, etc....
- Verdict: Awful player on an awful team

6. SG Teyvon Myers - West Virginia
2.4 ppg, 1 reb, etc....
- Verdict: Cant even get minutes

7. PF Malik Dime - Washington
6.9 ppg, 6 reb, 3 blk; 62% FG
- Verdict: Solid bench player, but he's just a role player

8. PF Kimani Jackson - Colorado State
2.4 ppg, 2 reb, etc....
- Verdict: Another guy who cant even get minutes

9. PF Torren Jones - Fresno State
10.5 ppg, 8 reb, 1 ast, 2 TO; 52% FG
- Verdict: Solid numbers, again, absolutely nothing special

10. PF Darien Williams - St. Johns
3 pts, 3 reb, 0 ast, 1 TO; 33% FG
- Verdict: Awful player

11. PF Chris Boucher - Oregon
12.1 ppg, 7 reb, 3 blk, 1 TO; 54% FG, 34% 3pt
- Verdict: Very good player, probably best on this list



And that's all their 4-stars. Out of the 10 guys who went to college, 5 are awful/cant even get minutes, 1 is just a role player off the bench (albeit solid in that role), the other 4 all score between about 10-12 ppg...which is pretty much exactly what i said. None are superstars, 1 or 2 you could consider very good, the others are just decent players. So again, they rarely pan out to their lofty rankings. I dont think anyone considers a hit rate of 1 or 2 notable guys out of 10 a very high hit rate. So no, spitting out 1 or 2 successful/notable players over a few years isn't helping your case out.

Again, good luck on building a team around JUCOs.