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re: USCe losing to the Citadel cost them Tom Herman
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:18 am to GameCocky88
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:18 am to GameCocky88
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At the beginning of the search there wasn't really anyone else looking all that hard for a head coach so yes you were right about that.
bullshite to you too good sir. From the start USC fans here speculated who the new coach should be:
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Muschamp wasn't mentioned EXCEPT to comment what a joke that choice would be:
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This will probably draw laughs (as it probably should after some message board poster "confirmed" Muschamp to USC with similar info)
That is a night and day difference than Mizzou fan expectations.
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However, in the post that you quoted from rooster, he said "considering the circumstances and who we were competing against..." again at the beginning of the search there was no competition, you being right, at the end there definitely was, rooster having some valid points.
My only beef with that perspective is that USC was the first Power 5 job to open and the last to be filled. We now know for a fact that Muschamp was a least a second choice, and he was probably even further down the list. Honestly I think your current AD is over his head (and he maybe lucked out) but that is another conversation.
Does any of that matter right now today? No. Do old fan expectations determine how good of a job Muschamp will do? No.
But lets be honest about this guys- none of yall wanted Muschamp. Any positivity yall have about the hire today was manufactured since the hire was made. Nothing wrong with that, but be honest about it. Some Mizzou fans wanted Odom from day one.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 10:20 am
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:24 am to cardboardboxer
It's not that we didn't want him (and a few didn't/don't want him). It's that he wasn't our first choice.
And if you're telling me Odom was Mizzous first choice I'll laugh.
And if you're telling me Odom was Mizzous first choice I'll laugh.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:28 am to cardboardboxer
This one is for you, cardboardboxer. Just to further prove your point. 
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If you would have told USC fans at the start of their long search that they would have ended up with Muschamp the response would have been something like "Frick you SEC Rant in your fat frickibg face! Their is no fricking way we end up with that Florida reject!"
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SCAR did fine considering the circumstances and who we were competing against to fill the position.
Mizzou ... notsomuch. Everyone is still laughing at Mizzou.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:46 am to cardboardboxer
I think you did it again, and by "it" I mean miss my point. At the time of the beginning of our coaching search was Muschamp high on the board or high in the minds of USC fans? No, which I agreed with you on actually. My point was that at that time there were no other coaching opportunities available, which you agreed on here
The only argument that I made that was partially against yours you addressed in a reasonable manner.
Now onto the popularity, if you will, of the Muschamp to SC vs the Odom to Mizzou argument. I think that you again are right in regards to the fact that Odom was higher on Mizzou fans boards than Muschamps was on USC fans. However, I think you have shown enough intellect to allow that it isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison. Odom was on Mizzou's staff for almost his entire professional career, Muschamp has no ties to USC whatsoever. Again, I agree that Odom was higher in the eyes of Mizzou fans than Muschamp's was in USC's pre-hire, but there is definitely a reason for that which has nothing to do with HC ability.
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USC was the first Power 5 job to open
The only argument that I made that was partially against yours you addressed in a reasonable manner.
Now onto the popularity, if you will, of the Muschamp to SC vs the Odom to Mizzou argument. I think that you again are right in regards to the fact that Odom was higher on Mizzou fans boards than Muschamps was on USC fans. However, I think you have shown enough intellect to allow that it isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison. Odom was on Mizzou's staff for almost his entire professional career, Muschamp has no ties to USC whatsoever. Again, I agree that Odom was higher in the eyes of Mizzou fans than Muschamp's was in USC's pre-hire, but there is definitely a reason for that which has nothing to do with HC ability.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:52 am to cardboardboxer
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Muschamp wasn't mentioned EXCEPT to comment what a joke that choice would be:
The post you referenced was because a poster's credibility was shot after the Muschamp-to-USC-DC Rumors last January. Again, the entire fanbase was on board with hiring him as DC Last year, instead of that paint-eating moron Jon Hoke. A good number of people wanted him even with a HCIW stipulation.
Was Muschamp first choice? No. That's common knowledge. Were we happy to get him? No, but we were happy just to be finished with the search. It blew up in Tanner's face like a hand grenade. Most of us know he's in over his head as AD.
That said, as much of a disappointment a hire (on the surface) as Muschamp was, he's done a great job winning people over and assembling a staff.
I have no idea if he'll be successful here. But I do think his personality and attitude are a better fit for this program than someone like Rich Rod is. If you wanted a polarizing hire that would have caused great upheaval, the fanbase was near unanimous in their disdain for that guy.
I'm really not sure what some of you are fishing for. Even if we disagree with the hire and wanted someone else (pretty ubiquitous), it was evident that we had to settle for someone to take the job. So far, he's done well in it.
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