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Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:10 pm to
was it Cam related initially and then went off the deep end? I googled "ATPB thread tigerdroppings" and got some weird shite
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:10 pm to
I just provided upvote #401.
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Initiation of the Enforcement Process
The NCAA enforcement process is initiated in a number of ways. For example, the NCAA
enforcement staff can initiate an investigation when it receives information or an allegation
from a media report or an anonymous or non-attributable source (e.g., high-school and
college coaches, student-athletes, general public) concerning a possible violation of NCAA
legislation at a member institution. In addition, enforcement staff investigations begin after a
member institution discovers and self-reports violations to the staff. Finally, the enforcement
staff conducts proactive efforts to discover potential violations, including: a) interviewing
prospective student-athletes and student-athletes that have transferred from member
institutions; or b) attending selected athletic contests and events (e.g., high-school or twoyear
college all-star games) that may be attended by college coaches.
When the enforcement staff receives allegations or other information concerning a possible
violation of NCAA legislation, the information is evaluated by the staff. If the information
clearly pertains to a secondary violation of NCAA legislation, the violation should be
handled through the online reporting system. If the information is deemed to be of a serious
nature (alleged major violations), however, it is assigned to an associate or assistant director
for a follow-up examination.
The enforcement staff is permitted to start a review of a member institution only when the
staff has reasonable cause to believe that the institution may have violated NCAA legislation.
If this burden is satisfied, the staff determines whether the possible violation should be
reviewed via correspondence with the involved member institution or its athletic conference,
or whether the enforcement staff should conduct its own in-person inquiries.
Notice of Inquiry and Investigation of Allegations
When the staff receives reasonably reliable information that an intentional violation has
occurred, that a significant competitive or recruiting advantage may have been gained, or that
false or misleading information may have been reported to the member institution or to the
enforcement staff, the enforcement staff begins to investigate the information in order to
determine its credibility.
Before the enforcement staff conducts an inquiry on an institution's campus, the enforcement
staff is required to notify the institution's president or chancellor of the inquiry. The “notice
of inquiry” can be made orally or in writing. The notice of inquiry tolls the statute of
limitations for alleged rules-violations. The notice of inquiry explains the institution’s
“obligation to cooperate and of the confidential nature of the inquiry.” Further, the notice of
inquiry may also indicate: (1) the involved sports; (2) the nature of the potential violations;
(3) the approximate time period in which the alleged violations occurred; (4) the identities of
the involved parties; (5) the approximate time frame for the investigation; and (6) a statement
that other facts may be developed during the course of the investigation that may relate to
additional violations.
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Notice of Allegations and Pre-Hearing Procedures
The enforcement staff conducts investigations for a reasonable period of time to assess
whether information exists that shows evidence of major violations of NCAA legislation. If
the staff determines that sufficient information exists to determine that a severe breach of
conduct or significant breach of conduct occurred at a member institution, then a notice of
allegations is sent to the institution’s chief executive officer. The notice of allegations
contains specific allegations of NCAA rules-violations against the institution. The
enforcement staff also notifies athletic department personnel and student-athletes – whose
employment or athletic eligibility could be affected – of the allegations in a notice of
allegations in which they are named.
The institution and involved individuals have 90 days to respond to the notice of allegations.
However, the institution and involved individuals may request additional time to respond to
the allegations; the chief hearing officer of a Committee on Infractions hearing panel grants
such extensions. Under the legislation, the “enforcement staff may establish a deadline for
the submission of responses to any reasonable time within the 90-day period, provided the
institution and all involved individuals consent to the expedited deadline.” If a party fails to
“submit a timely response,” then the panel may view it “as an admission that the alleged
violation(s) occurred.” Finally, “an institution or involved individual may not submit
additional documentary evidence without prior authorization from the chief hearing officer.”
The enforcement staff, within 60 days after the institution and involved individuals submitted
written responses to the notice of allegations, is required to “submit a written reply to the
hearing panel, and pertinent portions to an involved individual or institution.” Further, the
enforcement staff is mandated to “prepare a statement of the case setting forth a brief history
of the case, a summary of the parties' positions on each allegation and a list of any remaining
items of disagreement.” Involved individuals will be provided “those portions of the
statement in which they are named.”
The enforcement staff will establish a custodial site, which contains “copies of recorded
interviews, interview summaries and/or interview transcripts, and other evidentiary
information pertinent to the case.” The custodial site can take the form of a secure website or
hard copy of files at the NCAA national office. The enforcement staff will provide the
institution and involved individuals with access to the custodial site.
The enforcement staff, within 60 days after the institution and involved individuals submitted
written responses to the notice of allegations, will conduct pre-hearing conferences. A prehearing
conference involves the enforcement staff consulting with “institutional
representatives and other involved individuals in order to clarify the issues to be discussed
during the hearing, make suggestions regarding additional investigation or interviews that
should be conducted by the institution to supplement its response and identify allegations that
the staff intends to amend or withdraw.” The enforcement staff conducts “independent
prehearings with the institution and/or any involved individuals, unless mutually agreed by
all parties to do otherwise.”
All written material from the institution and involved individuals to be considered by the
hearing panel must be received by the hearing panel, enforcement staff, institution and any
involved individuals at least 30 days prior to the date the panel considers the case. This deadline can be revised by an order of the chief hearing officer. However, “information may be submitted at the hearing subject to the limitations set forth in Bylaw 32.8.7”, which states:
“At the outset of the hearing, a representative of the institution shall make an opening statement, followed by an opening statement from any involved individual and by a
representative of the enforcement staff.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

As the Plains Burn. I honestly am surprised I had to explain that



took a min but I remembered the acronym without googling. Idk, maybe i was on a hiatus.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:12 pm to
Who started that blog?
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:12 pm to
Summary Disposition
Eligible member institutions and involved individuals may elect to process a major case through summary disposition, which is a procedure used in place of a formal committee
hearing. Summary disposition procedures can be used only if “the enforcement staff, involved individuals, if participating, and the institution” agree to the process. Further, under the rules, “the institution, an involved individual or the enforcement staff may require, as a
condition of agreement, that the parties jointly submit the proposed findings to the chair of the Committee on Infractions or his or her designee for a preliminary assessment of the appropriateness of the use of the summary disposition process.”
The Committee on Infractions shall consider the summary disposition case during a subsequent meeting. Per Bylaw 32.7.1.4, the hearing panel is permitted to perform one or
more of the following actions:
? Acceptance of Proposed Findings and Penalties. If the proposed findings and proposed
penalties are accepted, the committee shall prepare a report of its decision, forward it tothe institution and involved individuals, and publicly announce the resolution of the case under the provisions of Bylaw 32.9.
? Proposed Findings Not Accepted. If the committee does not accept the proposed findings, the hearing process set forth in Bylaws 32.8 and 32.9 shall be followed.
? Proposed Findings Accepted With Additional Penalties. If the committee accepts the proposed findings but proposes penalties in addition to those set forth in the summary
disposition report, the institution and/or involved individuals may request an expedited hearing on penalties before the Committee on Infractions. The institution and/or the involved individual have the option to appear before the committee either in person, by videoconference or such other mode of distance communication as the Committee on
Infractions may deem appropriate. The institution and/or the involved individual also have the option to provide a written submission in lieu of a hearing. The committee shall
only consider information relevant to the prescription of penalties during the expedited hearing or written review. At the conclusion of the expedited hearing or written review,
the committee shall prepare an infractions decision and provide notification of the committee’s actions consistent with Bylaw 32.9. The institution and/or any involved
individuals may appeal the additional penalties to the Infractions Appeals Committee in accordance with Bylaws 32.10 and 32.11.
? Additional Information or Clarification. The committee may contact jointly the institution,
enforcement staff and involved individuals for additional information or clarification before accepting or rejecting the proposed findings.
? Authority to Amend Findings. The committee has the authority to make editorial or nonsubstantive changes in the proposed findings as long as these changes do not affect
the substance of the findings.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:13 pm to
Ask Tuht he was one of the cum drinking disciples of that thread.

Look at him helping the OP out in here...

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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:13 pm to
LINK

The link if they ever unlock it
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:13 pm to
BlueTunaTiger
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:14 pm to
Committee on Infractions Hearing
The Division II or III Committee on Infractions conducts hearings on cases involving major violations. The committee will meet several times per year and will typically last two to three days. The specific number of institutions appearing at a hearing during a committee meeting is dependent on the sophistication of each case as well as other items that are on the committee’s agenda. Generally, the committee schedules an institution’s hearing appearance
in half-day or full-day blocks.
Generally, the institution is represented at the hearing by its chief executive officer, faculty athletics representative, the director of athletics, the current or former head coach of the involved sport, compliance officer, legal counsel, or other pertinent individuals requested by
the committee. The associate or assistant director of enforcement who conducted the investigation, the director of enforcement who supervised the processing of the case and the vice-president for enforcement services represent the enforcement staff at the hearing. Staff
members who may have participated in some way in the processing of the case or who are present for other cases before the committee also may represent the enforcement staff at the hearing. The committee permits involved individuals appearing at a hearing to be present
with legal counsel. The hearing is transcribed by a certified court reporter and tape-recorded
by the committee.
The chief hearing officer opens the hearing by providing general background information concerning the hearing process. Next, the institution, the enforcement staff and other involved individuals present opening statements. The enforcement staff follows with its
presentation on the specifics of an allegation. The institution and other involved individuals
make their respective presentations concerning the allegation at the conclusion of the
enforcement staff’s presentation. During this process, the committee may ask questions of the
enforcement staff, the institution and other involved individuals. The next allegation is
addressed only after the conclusion of a thorough discussion of the current allegation. After
each allegation has been discussed, the enforcement staff, the institution and involved
individuals provide closing statements.
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The Infractions Report
After the conclusion of the hearing, the committee deliberates in private and determines: a)
what findings should be made, if any; and b) what penalties should be assessed, if any. The
hearing panel bases its decisions concerning violations on information deemed to be
“credible, persuasive, and of a nature that reasonably prudent persons would rely upon in the
conduct of serious affairs”. The committee prepares and approves a “final written infractions
decision containing a statement of findings, conclusions, penalties, corrective actions,
requirements and (for institutions) any other conditions and obligations of membership.” The
Committee on Infractions releases the report approximately six to eight weeks after the
hearing. The NCAA public affairs staff notifies the media of the infractions report on the
morning of the release. However, the member institution and involved individuals obtain a
copy of the infractions report prior to the public release. A member designated by the chief
hearing officer shall conduct a press conference to announce the results of the committee’s
decision in each case. The committee also releases a public infractions report detailing the
specific findings and penalties in the case, but with the names of all involved individuals
redacted, on the day of the report’s public release. Public infractions reports are posted on the
NCAA website (LINK ). The committee does not comment on any case until it
issues its infractions report.
Penalties and Mitigating Factors
The committee can impose a variety of penalties, including, but not limited to, probationary
periods, reduction of athletic scholarships, reduction of recruiting activities and restrictions
on a coach’s athletically-related duties. Institutional, conference and enforcement staff
representatives and any involved individuals are encouraged to present all relevant
information concerning mitigating or other factors that should be considered in arriving at
appropriate penalties
Appeals of Committee on Infractions Findings and Penalties
Institutions and involved individuals have the option to appeal the Committee on Infractions
hearing panel’s findings and penalties to the Infractions Appeals Committee by filing a notice
of appeal with the NCAA president “not later than 15 calendar days from the date of the
public release of the committee’s report.” Afterwards, the appealing parties and the
Committee on Infractions submit papers to the appeals committee. Next, the appeals
committee conducts a hearing involving the appealing party and the Committee on
Infractions representative. However, if the appealing party chooses to submit its appeal in
writing only, the appeals committee considers the appeal based on the parties’ written
submissions without a hearing.
The institution may appeal the Committee on Infractions’ findings of fact, conclusions,
penalties, corrective actions, requirements and/or other conditions and obligations of
membership prescribed for violations of NCAA legislation. An institution may not request an
in-person appeal oral argument before the Infractions Appeals Committee unless the
institution has made an in-person appearance before the Committee on Infractions.
An involved individual may appeal the Committee on Infractions’ findings of fact,
conclusions and/or a show-cause order prescribed for violations in which he or she is named.
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An involved individual may not request an in-person oral argument before the Infractions
Appeals Committee unless the involved individual has made an in-person appearance before
the Committee on Infractions. The notice of the appeal must state whether the individual is
employed at an NCAA institution (regardless of division). Further, if the individual’s
employment changes during the course of the appellate process (from the time of the
submission of the notice of appeal through the release of the final Infractions Appeals
Committee report), the individual must notify the Infractions Appeals Committee of the
change, including the identity of the new employer.
The Infractions Appeals Committee can reverse or modify a finding of the Committee on
Infractions hearing panel only if the institution or involved individual shows one or more of
the following grounds:
? The Committee on Infractions hearing panel’s finding is clearly contrary to the
evidence presented to the hearing panel;
? The facts found by the Committee on Infractions hearing panel do not constitute a
violation of the NCAA Constitution or bylaws; and
? There was a procedural error and but for the error, the Committee on Infractions
hearing panel would not have made the finding of violation.
The current procedure for processing an appeal is posted on the Infractions Appeals
Committee webpage, which is located on the NCAA website (LINK ).
After deliberating, the appeals committee issues its decision in an infraction appeals report.
Public infraction appeals reports are posted on the NCAA website.
Posted by cas4t
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70982 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:14 pm to
that thread went sideways as frick if I recall correctly from reading posts later on
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:16 pm to
It failed miserably when the facts came out. I helped with its demise by entering and stirring the cult of ATPB'ers.

They even labeled me a terrorist.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:17 pm to
In sum, when they sent out LOI, NOI or whatever it is being called that already have the evidence they need for a conviction. The school can confess the findings and proposal or negotiate a punishment. Bama style. If they dont accept the findings or school response you go to a hearing and almost always get fricked.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:17 pm to
I wish they'd unlock it
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

that thread went sideways as frick if I recall correctly from reading posts later on


Went?

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:21 pm to
Me too

You can see where I posted a gif of a sports fishing boat exploding and burning. ( metaphor for their ship is going up in flames).

They all jumped on me that I was threatening Blue Tuna Tiger because he was supposedly a charter fishing captain...

I kept going in and rustling the shite out of them and got stern PM to not post again in there. A couple of days later it was locked...

I know it had imploded and its locking had nothing to do with me, but I like to say it did...
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I kept going in and rustling the shite out of them and got stern PM to not post again in there. A couple of days later it was locked...



Tic Toc...

quote:

because he was supposedly a charter fishing captain.


Who lived in a basement? tough times for charter captains I guess
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:25 pm to


Were you in there at the end with me using their "Tic Toc" back towards them?
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