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re: so protests are starting in Germany..

Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:08 pm to
The far right groups are seeing a dramatic rise. It's actually a lot more violent over there than what we are being shown.
Posted by 1 Damn Good Dawg Man
Buckhead Atlanta
Member since Nov 2015
331 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:14 pm to
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There was never one single good reason to bring refugees here. Not one


Not sure why this is surprising. We took in Nazi's. Only the ones that could help us though.
Posted by 1 Damn Good Dawg Man
Buckhead Atlanta
Member since Nov 2015
331 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:15 pm to
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The far right groups are seeing a dramatic rise. It's actually a lot more violent over there than what we are being shown.


He's right, and it's not limited to Germany.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5331 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:17 pm to
I was just there recently in Berlin and Hamburg. In terms of violent crime it is exponentially safer than the US. Aside from anti-Muslim sentiment, there's basically no cause for supporting the Far Right. The economy is strong and most people are content. There is a strong commitment to centrism in Germany. Their entire school curriculum basically focuses on why they should be ashamed to be German due to the Nazi past and how important it is not to support the Far Right. In fact, I'd say they go way too far with these measures, to the point where they are curtailing civil liberties to prevent anyone from admiring the Nazis. Anyone suggesting there will be a Fourth Reich is just totally uninformed about modern Germany or an alarmist. The US is much more supportive of the Far Right than Germany.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:18 pm to
PEGIDA protests were broken up by police using water canons today.

The same German government that brought in the rapefugees, and could not protect its own citizens against mass sexual assaults, turns water cannons on its people who protest.

Burn it all.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49861 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 9:24 pm to
I have relatives over there that I talk to at least twice a week, and they tell me how bad it's getting. When your kids and females are scared to go outside its a problem. None of them support Nazis, but they are proud of their country and the far right is starting to sound much better than the left. Houses that host refugees are being burnt down and there are far right vigilante groups that are starting to self police.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:47 pm to
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Houses that host refugees are being burnt down and there are far right vigilante groups that are starting to self police.


wow.

wow.

can't blame them at all.

Just my opinion here, I've never met a German that was anything like those that endorsed or turned a blind eye to the problems in the past....I believe the Germans are good people and if anything, the whole WWII/Nazi stigma has made them slow on the trigger to react to things because they've been pretty well shamed in the past 70 years.

If they're at this stage, I'd have to guess things really are bad. I'm surprised there aren't really massive and borderline violent protests to force Merkel out of office.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39466 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:49 pm to
Everyone should watch the free documentary ... narrated by Julia Roberts.

Beslan: 3 Days in September LINK ... because that is what is coming to the United States. Hell, it's already here. It's just a matter of time.

Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:08 pm to
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Everyone should watch the free documentary ... narrated by Julia Roberts.

Beslan: 3 Days in September LINK ... because that is what is coming to the United States. Hell, it's already here. It's just a matter of time.



Chechen Muslims got their shite together much more than the ilk we're likely to see here, thankfully. And, the Chechens have their crosshairs oriented at Russia and in that general direction for the most part.

Nevertheless, you are on target. They are already here. The WH is sending resources to spy on Congress and Bibi and other nonsense. There's a borderline mentally retarded guy affiliated with the San Bern group and the feds couldn't even sniff out that idiot. But by God, don't forget to sign up for Obamacare, the IRS will be on you in a heartbeat with your tax return.

I'm not a fan of the people that roam around with long guns in open carry states, but it may take people with long guns to prevent that type of event here. A larger structure will make range of fire important as well as other factors related to long guns v short guns.
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
4057 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 7:19 pm to
I live right outside Munich. But yeah, Germany has lost its mind
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 7:24 pm to
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The same German government that brought in the rapefugees, and could not protect its own citizens against mass sexual assaults


There are over 800 sexual assaults in America everyday (average). One every 107 seconds.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 7:30 pm to
How many were imported in to do them?
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 7:32 pm to
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There are over 800 sexual assaults in America everyday (average). One every 107 seconds.


related to germany?
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1348 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:04 pm to
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Last time Germany tried right ideology, it wasn't very appreciated by the rest of the world.



The NAZI ideology is a Statist LEFT ideology not a right wing ideology. It is socialism and fascist. Calling them right wing is a myth.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1348 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:10 pm to
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There are over 800 sexual assaults in America everyday (average). One every 107 seconds.



That's about the dumbest analogy I've ever heard. These 800/day don't occur by a homogenous group thinking they're covered by their ideology. These are random and not related. Humans have been assaulting each other since we were created. But this is institutionalized.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:17 pm to
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That's about the dumbest analogy I've ever heard.


A Leftist. Their hatred of the West is so deep, they'll do mental gymnastics all day to justify their hatred.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39466 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:38 pm to
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The NAZI ideology is a Statist LEFT ideology not a right wing ideology. It is socialism and fascist. Calling them right wing is a myth.


Yes, but the far left wing socialist progressive libtards have been preaching, for seventy years now, that Conservatives are far right wing and far right wing is Nazi.

Dontcha get it? And the dumbasses like the ones in this thread showing their leftardedness believe them.

May the world burn. I'm fine with that at this age and stage. Whatever remains afterwards is good with me one way or the other. It's time for the reset button to be pushed. This crap is so outta hand with the brainwashing and the lies - it would just be better to get it over with quickly rather than having to see this bullshite playout around the world on a daily basis.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1348 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:56 pm to
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Yes, but the far left wing socialist progressive libtards have been preaching, for seventy years now, that Conservatives are far right wing and far right wing is Nazi. Dontcha get it?


Oh I get it...repeat the lie enough times it becomes the truth. We're on the same page.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1348 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:59 pm to
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Their entire school curriculum basically focuses on why they should be ashamed to be German due to the Nazi past and how important it is not to support the Far Right.


We have a soft form of that going on here right now only the "centrist" position is slowly being pulled to the left over time so that what was centrist 20 years ago is no longer the center.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39466 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:16 pm to
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We have a soft form of that going on here right now only the "centrist" position is slowly being pulled to the left over time so that what was centrist 20 years ago is no longer the center.


You are exactly correct.

To coin an old metaphor the pendulum still swings both ways ... but the pivot point of the pendulum has been shifted far left.

There is this thing, yin and yang. It applies to everything. And things usually go really bad when the yin and yang are out of balance.

That's where we are now.
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