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re: Forget Spice.. It's now Shatter
Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:26 am to CCTider
Posted on 12/24/15 at 2:26 am to CCTider
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It makes me feel like crap in the morning. I also use melatonin sometimes. But if I screwed up and took too long if a nap after work, I need a baseball bat up side the head to get to sleep. That's shatter, a reefer bat across the head.
Maybe I need to look into other means. Right now I can't sleep without an opiate of some sort in my system. Withdrawals are a bitch. But I'm usually on Norco, and it acts as an upper for me. Tramadol will knock me out...after awhile, but I have to take somewhere around 600mg at one sitting for it to even think about producing an effect. I need 60mg of Norco right now to be comfortable for more than 1 hour.
I apparently have a major enzyme issue that we cant figure out. My tolerance levels escalate at an amazing rate. It happens with all medications, but it's the worst with opiates. My doctor actually said a scientific study needs to be done on me because neither he, nor his industry friends, have ever heard of someone like me. Earlier this year I went from needing a single 10mg Norco to give me relief for 2.5 hours to needing 60mg of oxycodone for the same effect.
How long did that take? 5 months. Norco for 2. Percocet for 2. Then Oxy for 1. I actually needed the Oxy sooner, but I tried to stay on both Norco and Percocet a month too long.
All of that being said.
Any advice on pain relief and sleep? I have a bad hip, bad shoulder, and joint nerve pain that is excruciating (when I'm withdrawing from Opiates). I need to do something else. All of this acetaminophen is wrecking my body.
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Posted on 12/24/15 at 7:53 am to VaBamaMan
quote:I would say the acetaminophen is the least of your worries. Dang!
All of this acetaminophen is wrecking my body.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:09 am to VaBamaMan
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I apparently have a major enzyme issue that we cant figure out. My tolerance levels escalate at an amazing rate. It happens with all medications, but it's the worst with opiates. My doctor actually said a scientific study needs to be done on me because neither he, nor his industry friends, have ever heard of someone like me. Earlier this year I went from needing a single 10mg Norco to give me relief for 2.5 hours to needing 60mg of oxycodone for the same effect.
Damn, sorry about your pain issues, but you don't sound that much different from anyone else I've known to take opiates for 5 months straight. I've known people that go from getting high on a couple tabs to having to snort 300+ milligrams a day of oxy.
No study necessary my man. Get help and kick the junk. Good luck
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 8:13 am
Posted on 12/24/15 at 8:32 am to VaBamaMan
I think that there's likely some hope in medical marijuana for your pain relief and sleep issues. The main issue, as you seem to already recognize, will be in seperating the pain/discomfort of your opiate withdrawal from the actual pain/discomfort from your injury/condition.
Legitimate chronic pain issues suck in this day and age for so many reasons, not the least of which is that some doctors overprescribe opiates as a panacea. Then there are the issues of people looking at chronic pain sufferers as normal "junkies" who are just using their "pain" as an excuse to get high.
Legitimate chronic pain issues suck in this day and age for so many reasons, not the least of which is that some doctors overprescribe opiates as a panacea. Then there are the issues of people looking at chronic pain sufferers as normal "junkies" who are just using their "pain" as an excuse to get high.
Posted on 12/24/15 at 5:05 pm to VaBamaMan
Any advice on pain relief and sleep? I have a bad hip, bad shoulder, and joint nerve pain that is excruciating (when I'm withdrawing from Opiates). I need to do something else. All of this acetaminophen is wrecking my body.
I was in your shoes about 10 years ago. I was taking about 40mg of hydracodone and it wasn't working. But then I started taking neurontin (gabapentin). Within 2 weeks the pain was down dramatically and I was off hydracodone completely. Oddly enough it's one side effect is to make you groggy so maybe it can help you sleep. You should ask your doctor to see if it will help you. Good luck.
I was in your shoes about 10 years ago. I was taking about 40mg of hydracodone and it wasn't working. But then I started taking neurontin (gabapentin). Within 2 weeks the pain was down dramatically and I was off hydracodone completely. Oddly enough it's one side effect is to make you groggy so maybe it can help you sleep. You should ask your doctor to see if it will help you. Good luck.
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