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re: Sumlin's decisiveness

Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:01 pm to
Sumlin threw away 2014 by keeping Snyder a year too long and 2015 by keeping Spav too long. Both would have been 10 win teams had the moves been made when most realized they needed to be made. He still has McKinney on his staff which is incredibly puzzling. Four years in and Sumlin still doesn't know what he wants to run, and it's becoming obvious Tia is because he simply doesn't know enough about offense to know what he wants. He has benefited from two of the most brilliant playcallers in CFB serving as his OCs during his first five years as a HC and was able to gain this undue reputation as an offensive guru.

Your argument essentially boils down to "Well, he's better than Fran and Sherman". I would argue that he is an inferior Xs and Os and talent evaluator than Sherman, but fine, lets say he is clearly superior to both. That still leaves a TON of room for criticism and improvement. Sumlin isn't half the coach Sherrill was and isn't an expert at anything like RC was. We can do better. We have done better.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:12 pm to
Snyder fielded a damn good defense in 2012 when no one expected him to. We were young in 2013 and everyone saw how we were starting true freshmen and inferior talent in the D line. We got some elite recruits and this bought Snyder another year in everyone's eyes. Very few were callin for him to be fired in 2013. In 2014, after it was clear we needed to change our philosophy, Sumlin made his move and brought in a goat. He made one of the best coordinator hires of any CFB school in the past decade.

2014 Spav was blamed on a QB who fell apart after blowing people away against South Carolina. Then, when we went to Allen, it was clear he wasn't ready solely based on familiarity with our Syatem. Spav changed his offensive style to fit KA. People did not know what to mak pe out of our offensive problems in 2014. Again, not many were calling for Spav to be fired. It was all about the defense getting fixed.

McKinney is the only puzzling retention. But McKinney is an excellent recruiter, and Sumlin places a high price for recruiters.

My argument is not Sumlin is better than Fran/Sherman. My argument is Sumlin is more willing to change than any of our previous coaches, yet people seem to criticize him for it unexplainably. Hell, RC was just as stubborn as those guys. He didn't make changes to his offense until he was almost out the door.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:16 am to
I don't think there's any doubt that next year is make or break for him. Even someone who just follows the program and doesn't really know anyone inside that can see that. When you fire coordinators in back to back years there needs to be improvement or there's only one other person to blame

I still don't think Ole Miss gets punished that badly. The NCAA has lost all it's teeth. When is the last time they really, truly hammered someone? Penn State's sanctions were bad but got neutered this year. USC's were pretty bad I guess. UNC hasn't had shite happen to them really and neither did Miami. Ole Miss isn't any less of a factor on the national scene in football than UNC is but I guess you can argue their AD overall isn't on the status of those three. I still think they're a big enough factor to where they don't see serious punishment.
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