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Mathematically possible for Arkansas to win the west?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:07 pm
A couple of weeks ago I read an article showing how it would be possible for Arkansas to win the West. Part of the equation was for LSU to beat Alabama. That didn't happen. After the Arkansas - LSU game Coach Bielema was being interviewed and the reporter stated that it was still mathematically possible for Arkansas to win the West.
If Arkansas and Ole Miss both win out and Alabama loses to Auburn that will create a 3 way tie for first. All three teams 6-2 in conference play.
The first tie breaker (A) is head to head records. All 3 will be 1-1.
B is the record of the tied teams within the division. Ole Miss 5-1, Alabama 4-2, Arkansas 4-2. Ole Miss wins.
If Arkansas wins out, Alabama loses to Auburn and LSU wins out that leaves a 3 way tie between Arkansas, LSU and Alabama. Alabama would win because LSU would be eliminated by A and then it goes back to a 2 way tie with Alabama beating Arkansas.
Am I reading this correctly and only Alabama and Ole Miss are still in the race or is there other scenarios?
If Arkansas and Ole Miss both win out and Alabama loses to Auburn that will create a 3 way tie for first. All three teams 6-2 in conference play.
The first tie breaker (A) is head to head records. All 3 will be 1-1.
B is the record of the tied teams within the division. Ole Miss 5-1, Alabama 4-2, Arkansas 4-2. Ole Miss wins.
If Arkansas wins out, Alabama loses to Auburn and LSU wins out that leaves a 3 way tie between Arkansas, LSU and Alabama. Alabama would win because LSU would be eliminated by A and then it goes back to a 2 way tie with Alabama beating Arkansas.
Am I reading this correctly and only Alabama and Ole Miss are still in the race or is there other scenarios?
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:08 pm to sweet
No. Only Bama and OM can win now.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:09 pm to sweet
Yes, I believe so. Alabama had to lose at least one game before this week to either LSU or Miss. State.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:12 pm to sweet
I heard Finebaum say yesterday that only Ole Miss and Bama can win the West and it's because of this:
In a nutshell, Ole Miss wins a three way.
I give very low odds that Auburn pulls the upset anyway so it's really a moot point.
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The first tie breaker (A) is head to head records. All 3 will be 1-1.
B is the record of the tied teams within the division. Ole Miss 5-1, Alabama 4-2, Arkansas 4-2. Ole Miss wins.
In a nutshell, Ole Miss wins a three way.
I give very low odds that Auburn pulls the upset anyway so it's really a moot point.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:13 pm to BrerTiger
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I give very low odds that Auburn pulls the upset anyway so it's really a moot point.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:15 pm to sweet
Auburn beats bama?
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:15 pm to sweet
I thought the 3 way tie breaker was the conference record of your SEC East opponwnts record. Not anything on head to head.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:19 pm to SECdragonmaster
PSA: anything after 3 of the same emoticons is just text... And also makes you look like a retard.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:20 pm to bama1959
1. Two-Team Tie: In the event two teams are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order:
A. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams;
B. Records of the tied teams within the division;
C. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record, and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);
D. Overall record against non-divisional teams;
E. Combined record against all common non-divisional teams;
F. Record against the common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional or non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division;
G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents; and
Example (Western 1 would be the representative)
TIED TEAMS NON-DIVISIONAL OPPONENTS CUMULATIVE RECORD
Western 1 Eastern Opponents: 14-2
Western 2 Eastern Opponents: 12-4
H. Coin flip of the tied teams.
2. Three-Team Tie (or more): If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):
A. Combined head to head record among the tied teams;
B. Record of the tied teams within the division;
C. Head to head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);
D. Overall Conference record against non divisional teams;
E. Combined record against all common non divisional teams;
F. Record against the common non divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through other common non divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and
G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents (Note: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply. If four teams are tied, and three teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, the three-team tiebreaker procedures will be used beginning with 2.A.);
Example (Western 1 would be the representative)
TIED TEAMS NON-DIVISIONAL OPPONENTS CUMULATIVE RECORD
Western 1 Eastern Opponents: 14-2
Western 2 Eastern Opponents: 12-4
Western 3 Eastern Opponents: 8-8
H. Coin flip of the tied teams with the team with the odd result being the representative (Example: If there are two teams with tails and one team with heads, the team with heads is the representative).
A. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams;
B. Records of the tied teams within the division;
C. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record, and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);
D. Overall record against non-divisional teams;
E. Combined record against all common non-divisional teams;
F. Record against the common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional or non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division;
G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents; and
Example (Western 1 would be the representative)
TIED TEAMS NON-DIVISIONAL OPPONENTS CUMULATIVE RECORD
Western 1 Eastern Opponents: 14-2
Western 2 Eastern Opponents: 12-4
H. Coin flip of the tied teams.
2. Three-Team Tie (or more): If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):
A. Combined head to head record among the tied teams;
B. Record of the tied teams within the division;
C. Head to head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);
D. Overall Conference record against non divisional teams;
E. Combined record against all common non divisional teams;
F. Record against the common non divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through other common non divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and
G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents (Note: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply. If four teams are tied, and three teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, the three-team tiebreaker procedures will be used beginning with 2.A.);
Example (Western 1 would be the representative)
TIED TEAMS NON-DIVISIONAL OPPONENTS CUMULATIVE RECORD
Western 1 Eastern Opponents: 14-2
Western 2 Eastern Opponents: 12-4
Western 3 Eastern Opponents: 8-8
H. Coin flip of the tied teams with the team with the odd result being the representative (Example: If there are two teams with tails and one team with heads, the team with heads is the representative).
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