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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30971 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:42 pm to
Dude give it up look at what you're doing. You're trying to justify losing to Hawaii and MTSU. Harvard maybe, but still they play in the Ivy League of course they win a lot of games against other slow white kids who study more than they practice.

Hawaii and MTSU are not good basketball teams, ever.

You can make whatever excuses you want but the fact is this team is no better from a results standpoint than any of our crap teams in the past under Lebo and Barbee. I didn't think we would win the NCAAT in Bruce's second year but I thought we would at least compete with other middling SEC teams and have a good shot at the NIT.

If you didn't at least expect that what were you excited about when we hired him?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33437 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:52 pm to
KenPom has Hawaii ranked 55 (Colorado 53, LSU 56, Harvard 127)


FTR, Pearl's goal for this team was .500. Reality is that unless your starting 5 are all top 20 players, it takes time for them to play together in a system as a cohesive team. We won't start playing well until we retain our roster and get our guys playing together for multiple seasons. This season has been setback after setback with eligibility and injury issues. Gonna be another few years before we're to a point where you non-hoop fans will be happy


This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37709 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Dude give it up look at what you're doing. You're trying to justify losing to Hawaii and MTSU.



Hawaii and MTSU aren't elite teams, that isn't the argument. Both teams are quality teams and we lost on the road. We blew those games. We were up 10+ and absolutely handed the victory to both teams.

Unfortunately, when you have no depth and you have walkons playing crucial minutes in the second half, you lose road games like that.



For the record, MTSU has won 24+ in 3/4 seasons and Hawaii likely will win 25+ this season. So




Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Dude give it up

quote:

Randy Savage


Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

If you didn't at least expect that what were you excited about when we hired him?



Most of us weren't expecting to be lacking 3 of our most important pieces of the team for long stretches. That fact kinda makes it hard to say expectation should be reality.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37709 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:06 pm to
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RandySavage


Point to a team/coach that has turned around a program quickly in years 1-2 without getting 4-5+ top 25 players OR inherited a roster of returning players for yrs 1-2?


-Frank Martin won 20+ games every year at KState, he was under .500 in first 2 years and 17-16 year 3

-Mark Fox 20+ wins every year at Nevada. Sub .500 3 out of first 4 years

-Billy Kennedy went ~.500 for 3 years before his likely back to back 20+ win seasons

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