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Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:59 pm to Weagle25
Posted on 11/5/15 at 2:59 pm to Weagle25
By itself....you're correct
But given its context throughout history...its a different story. The same could be said for the flag of the nazi party. The flag, itself, doesn't represent anything racist or oppressive.
But given its context throughout history...its a different story. The same could be said for the flag of the nazi party. The flag, itself, doesn't represent anything racist or oppressive.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:07 pm to pankReb
You have to be pretty wilfully obtuse to attempt to separate that particular emblem from it's racist connotations
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:38 pm to pankReb
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But given its context throughout history...its a different story. The same could be said for the flag of the nazi party. The flag, itself, doesn't represent anything racist or oppressive.
Exactly.
Look at the history of the Swastika...
Originally, the svastika as a sanskrit symbol. It meant "good health", or "good luck".
The earliest known use was an image of one on a bird carved from a mammoth tusk dating back to 10,000 BCE.
The ancient Romans used them in mosaics and can be found in artifacts found in India dating back to 3,000 BCE.
If you see someone with a swastika tattoo today...do you think they are likely paying homage to the ancient Romans? Probably not. The swastika got caught on the wrong side of history. It is not an inherently evil symbol...but its association with Nazi Germany has ruined its legacy.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:23 pm to pankReb
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But given its context throughout history...its a different story.
The confederate flag has been on the ms state flag since the end of reconstruction as a way to honor the fallen soldiers on the confederacy. The flag wasn't used by hate groups until around the civil rights era..so in a historical context the state flag precedes the use of the confederate flag as a symbol of hate. If anything we should be putting pressure on hate groups to abandon the flag to preserve it's proper historical heritage
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:42 pm to pankReb
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By itself....you're correct
But given its context throughout history...its a different story. The same could be said for the flag of the nazi party. The flag, itself, doesn't represent anything racist or oppressive.
Just because it has been used racially before doesn't mean it's always being used racially.
I don't get the calling for it to be taken down thing. If you truly find it offensive, then why would you associate yourself with the university? If you don't associate with the University, then why do you care?
And again, I'm just trying to understand since obviously I dont.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:33 pm to pankReb
Sure, but what about the variations of the American flag as it pertains to Native Americans, Chinese railroad "workers", Vietnamese, or even African Americans that were traded and enslaved under it?
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 7:35 pm
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