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re: John Boehner to resign from Congress.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:31 pm to Duke
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:31 pm to Duke
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The problem is getting things through the Senate and the veto. He's had next to zero leverage to really fight back
So force a veto, over and over. Who's going to start feeling more heat to compromise when they are sending him legislation?
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He's done those things because he's got a caucus who refuses to back anything that has a prayer of getting through the senate. You'd get more possible conservative positions through if a large fraction of the right wasn't so unreasonable. Thus he's left needing the Dems to pass necessary legislation.
They have the majority, because these "unreasonable" people on the right put them in office. The terms the media has gotten a lot of the public to buy into.. "unreasonable" this.. "reasonable" that... is part of the problem as well. As I said.. he could pass necessary legislation and force Obama to veto if he doesn't want it, and force Dems to the table. Instead, he chose to attack his own party and is a huge part of the problem.
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Reaching out to the right makes him more ineffective at his job
Absolutely disagree. His actions, and those few that support him, is why there is such a fraction in the R party now and why so many are ready to bolt from it after a lifetime of supporting them.
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It's not like the right is making any effort to reach back his way.
So, now you see, he isn't to the right. And someone "leading" a party that he isn't ideologically in step with is a disaster. He never should have been put in the position he was.
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Obama vetos, lays out what sounds like a reasonable proposal
He's yet to do that. With any proposal he's made, from Obamacare, to the bailouts, to Iran. It's been one disastrous policy after another.
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the GOP carries more blame for the shite legislature. If you believe in the liberal MSM, you know that is exactly what happens.
I do. I'd rather them get blamed for doing what they were voted into place for though, instead of being a lapdog for Obama and the D's.
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a more reasonable GOP
a more reasonable GOP has made them D's of 20 yrs ago. Continuing down that path will only lead to more socialistic views and larger problems down the road. Having had the advantage of seeing firsthand the shift in policies and agendas by both parties, there is no doubt where things are headed at if we keep saying that a Conservative needs to be "reasonable". That's simply code for, R's need to buy into the socialist program being pushed by the left and the media.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:45 pm to Alahunter
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a more reasonable GOP has made them D's of 20 yrs ago.
That's not what I mean. You've got a very conservative philosophy, some may call you extreme. Yet, I can have a discussion with you and sometimes even work toward a consensus. That's what I mean by reasonable.
The problem I see is an electorate that demands perfect for their ideology, or its a failure. Perfect is impossible. There's no room to find the good.
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That's simply code for, R's need to buy into the socialist program being pushed by the left and the media.
The left who wants that are being just as unreasonable, accepting your socialist point at face value.
What I'm calling for is a political climate open to discussion, instead of the outrage cycle far too many are caught up in.
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