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re: John Boehner to resign from Congress.

Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:57 am to
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Maybe, but that option would be less effective than Boehner.


That's relative to what you want done. Less Obama policy would be more. A true Conservative with backbone could actually force compromise, instead of capitulation to Obama's policy's, as Boehner has done time and time again.

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Boehner probably has the hardest job in Washington


The position, sure. But he made it easy by threatening his own party members and consistently siding with Dems.

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There are many factions within the Pubs to keep in line


And therein, lies the problem with him, imo. Instead of seeing the growing divide and reaching out to party members, he threatened and took away assignments. Essentially creating a bigger divide and making things more ineffective. The RINO's would have been better served to have used Dem tactics and strongarmed the D party into their policies and forcing Obama into a lame duck Presidency, when they took over both the Senate and the House.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:13 pm to
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A true Conservative with backbone could actually force compromise, instead of capitulation to Obama's policy's, as Boehner has done time and time again.


How? The problem is getting things through the Senate and the veto. He's had next to zero leverage to really fight back.

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The position, sure. But he made it easy by threatening his own party members and consistently siding with Dems.


He's done those things because he's got a caucus who refuses to back anything that has a prayer of getting through the senate. You'd get more possible conservative positions through if a large fraction of the right wasn't so unreasonable. Thus he's left needing the Dems to pass necessary legislation.

Do realize I know the GOP caucus isn't the only unreasonable end of this problem. Boehner has been a fairly pragmatic speaker. I can tell because the right and left hate the guy.

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Instead of seeing the growing divide and reaching out to party members, he threatened and took away assignments. Essentially creating a bigger divide and making things more ineffective.


Reaching out to the right makes him more ineffective at his job. It keeps the caucus happy at the cost of doing his job. It's not like the right is making any effort to reach back his way.

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The RINO's would have been better served to have used Dem tactics and strongarmed the D party into their policies and forcing Obama into a lame duck Presidency, when they took over both the Senate and the House.


And you begin handing away hopes for getting a R in the WH in 2016. Obama vetos, lays out what sounds like a reasonable proposal, and the GOP carries more blame for the shite legislature. If you believe in the liberal MSM, you know that is exactly what happens.

The dynamic isn't solely a conservative problem, but a more reasonable GOP serves as a way more effective check on liberal do gooder bullshite.
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