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Fire Josh Henson and A.J. Ricker.

Posted on 9/19/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 3:17 pm
This offense is steaming hot garbage.

Offense was bad last year and even worse this year. Nobody is in sync, the O-line can't block a cheerleader, Mauk throws an interception a game and has not developed at ALL, and we have ZERO depth at RB. Bye bye top 25 ranking.

7 points against UConn? What a joke.


Fire these clowns at the end of the season please GP.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 3:19 pm to
Ok.

And they say I'm melting.
This post was edited on 9/19/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 3:28 pm to
Yep I've pretty much lost it at this point.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 3:42 pm to

so then who is Pinkel going to promote to OC?

Jones or Hill?

as long as Pinkel thinks he's some sort of guru at mentoring OC's he isn't going anywhere with the offense, and doesn't need to dust off that empty trophy shelf, it's gonna stay empty.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
17096 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 4:28 pm to
Henson's play calling was atrocious today.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68531 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Henson's play calling was atrocious today.

The only call I objected to was the 4th and goal and running Ish up the middle.

Until the offense starts EXECUTING properly it doesn't matter what play is called.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 6:29 pm to
Running it on 3rd down before Baggett pulled a Baggett was pretty bad too
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68531 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 6:31 pm to
Forgot about that one....so 2 plays? Not bad
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3131 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 7:34 pm to
Yost might be available for the OC? Did I really say that???
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3131 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 8:53 pm to
Dave Matter ?@Dave_Matter · 3h3 hours ago
LSU has 409 rushing yards today (with 11 minutes left vs. Auburn). Missouri has 323 rushing yards in three games.

Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 9/19/15 at 9:03 pm to
Lol
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:41 am to
Not calling for them to be fired but shouldn't this question be posed because of our offensive woes.

From an offensive perspective do they just let Maty do whatever the hell he wants? It is like they have never taught him how to climb the pocket and just allow his poor mechanics to cause bad throws.

I think it says a lot that a true freshman understands pocket presence on the collegiate level ahead of a 4 year player in our system and that has to be a coaching fail.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:41 am to
quote:


I think it says a lot that a true freshman understands pocket presence on the collegiate level ahead of a 4 year player in our system and that has to be a coaching fail.



Some of you may be old enough to remember how absolutely "average at best" most of us thought Dave Christensen was as an OC. True he could draw up a bubble screen, and knew how to call it over and over, he really may have been the best "play caller" this program has had since Pinkel came along.

He had Chase, who like Drew Lock, showed up pretty much ready to play, didn't need much "coachin up" or time on the field. With Coffman, Rucker, Maclin, Alexander to throw to, not much line in front of him but enough, he had a pretty spectacular career and that was reason enough to assume we had a staff that knew what it was doing.

Now after his venture as HC in Wyoming or wherever it was, DC is an Oline coach again and part time OC(run game only) in a pretty decent offense for a coach that actually knows something about offense. Since then we've seen some pretty "talented" 4 and even 5 star QBs show up at Mizzou.

But what about those QB's was ever different from the time they came to the time they left?

Did Gabbert ever stop the happy foot dancing or slinging heaters at receivers 10 yards away? No.

Did Franklin still look like.. well, Franklin, when he was a senior and suddenly forget how to play football out of the clear blue on any given Saturday? Yep.

Is Mauk still a "52 %" QB going into his 3rd season of playing with the exact same look of struggling to figure it out as he did two years ago? Yep.

So what QB has made real, serious strides in improvement under Gary Pinkel? You see there is a pattern here, this isn't "unprecedented" if you remember history and paid attention. Mizzou hasn't really had a "QB coach" under Pinkel, Yost was flipper with no idea, never played football in his life and while Hill is a great "Mizzou guy" from before Pinkel, was a decent receiver in his day I guess, he isn't a QB or really a QB coach either.

We've never had a real QB coach under Pinkel.

Just like we've never had an OC that went out and proved himself the way Odom did as DC at Memphis, they were just handed the job because they were "here". It's always been a case of "he's a Gary's guy" and Gary thinks he knows how to just "make him a coach". So how has that plan actually worked out?

The answer is as long as Gary Pinkel believes saying "I coached for Don James" and "we do what we do - we have a system", is an actual "program" and coaching system, this is what we have to look forward to and not much else.
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 11:01 am
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23188 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:54 am to
I questioned making Andy Hill the qb coach. I thought he did a great job with receivers, and that unit has dropped off, IMO, since that change.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:16 am to
Pat Washington has a pretty good track record, plus he's experienced in SEC regional recruiting, so that is one of Pinkels hires that actually made more sense than most.

Considering we want to have "5 wide" on receivers so much, maybe it makes sense to have two receiver coaches, either way I've just never seen anything to make me think we had a QB coach that was "fixing" anything. When our QB comes out doing the exact same thing including the problems with footwork, pocket presence, reading D packages, right down to your passing mechanics and there's nobody on the staff that actually played QB.

Here's the thing, I've heard in some of his more extended interviews Pinkel mention they actually sit down and "analyze" what is working and not working with the program, if they're doing that with the actual coaching then I'm not sure I'd pay two cents for that "analysis" because nothing seems to ever change. For someone who is constantly quoting the new age managerial rhetoric of "constant improvement" there seems to be a lot of static, no-improvement happening.

Coach speak for the media is one thing but when you start to believe your own BS, that's when you get into "emperors new cloths" territory. We seem to have a lot of that going on in COMO, and it explains a lot about why the offense looks like it does. Of course we already know the age old excuse about "injuries to starters" is what we can expect a constant stream of until that excuse becomes over worn. Then we'll get the "movem over movem up" line and "injuries are no excuse" even though that is what they were just made to be in the previous line... and that's the world of sports coaching, much like politics, you simply can't make sht like that up.

This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18296 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:18 am to
Did Christianson ever get hired by anyone else?
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:20 am to
Mauk looked pretty good as a freshman and we were all predicting he was going to run all over the SEC. He's gotten worse each year. So we would be better off with no QB coach than the one we have.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Did Christianson ever get hired by anyone else?


He's working for one of the best offensive coaches in college football.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18296 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:27 am to
Did not know he was picked up by Texas A&M.Or he was at Utah the year before.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Mauk looked pretty good as a freshman and we were all predicting he was going to run all over the SEC.


he actually didn't look that good, his mechanics, game decisions, reading etc, were all about as atrocious as they are now.

What Mauk DID SHOW, was, like Chase he was a gamer, and after Franklin and Gabbert I think the fan base was looking for that quality again and thinking if Mauk could "fix the flaws" and keep the "gamer attitude" we would really have something.

What I liked about him and still do, besides the gamer attitude is he isn't afraid to just haul off and throw it 50 yards down the field. While we clearly try to run a chip offense, dinking and dunking all day long, Mauk is just going out and playing like he always did in HS and going for broke. After Franklin who took maybe 3 shots down field the entire game, it's refreshing to see some of these plays that stretch the field, of course that hasn't fixed his nearly non existent short game, but he is what he is, and like we do what we do, there is no reason to ever expect anything else.

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