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re: Disappointing recruits of the last 3 years or so....

Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:40 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83594 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:40 am to
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Less than 15 Freshman 1,000 yard rushers in SEC History. Fournette is one.
For frick's sake, y'all and y'all's records I can name 7 freshman to rush for 1000 in the SEC in the past 5 years. LSU fans...........it's going to keep happening.
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I'd say having a Freshman campaign in which you set your school's Freshman Rushing Record and led your team in rushing, along with leading the conference in All-Purpose yards is more than solid.
There goes that record thing again. And how many starting RBs returned kickoffs? All-purpose yards? Neat?

I know y'all's passing game wasn't what you wanted. LF is really good. His year was pretty damn good. My point is that what he did wasn't even close to living up to the hype for year one. We'll never agree on this point but the majority of y'all said he'd be a sure fire can't miss damn near GOAT RB in SEC history savior of your team type RB. The hype for him was and is at all-time levels. I'm not looking for confirmation bias. I'm evaluating hype of a player and what they brought to their team. LF might be the guy we all think he can be this year. But if he doesn't bust out in a big way, I don't see how he can be viewed as anything but overrated when compared to the hype. There isn't anything wrong with that either. If he lives up to the hype, we'll all be shitting our pants at how amazing he is.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:58 am to
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ReauxlTide222
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y'all and y'all's records I can name 7 freshman to rush for 1000 in the SEC in the past 5 years. LSU fans...........it's going to keep happening.


So you look back in time to say he's severely over-rated, but then when you're provided factual evidence that he's one of an extremely small number of backs to do what he did-and did so with two senior tailbacks ahead of him to start the year-you admit it and then immediately turn forwards in order to say, "Well this is not meaningful because this will continue to happen."

So you denigrate fans or supporters of the player who disagree with you for using stats from verifiable on field performance to disagree with you, and then go on to say that they cannot do this because you think this will become more common in the future. Which you-nor anyone else on Earth-have any possible way of confirming as fact?

Looking through your post you've sort've jumped off the logic train in order to disagree with me or paint LSU fans as illogical in general. It's ironic in a way. But moreso, it's telling that you can't use logic or apply reason to your opinion to support it, so you're attacking others and sort've making things up as you go along to do so.

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There goes that record thing again. And how many starting RBs returned kickoffs? All-purpose yards? Neat?


So now you're saying that his performance in multiple aspects of the game should not be considered towards his performance as a player? He was the 4th leading returner in the SEC on KOR. He consistently helped put us in good field position to start offensive drives, which was of vital importance for us on offense as we both admit we struggled to put it mildly.

But this impact shouldn't be considered because "no other tailbacks were on KOR". So when you're evaluating a player you can only use their primary position? Reggie Bush caught 100 passes one year for the Saints. Are you supposed to forget about that part of his game because he's a running back?

...and what does it say about other tailbacks in the SEC that they aren't on KOR? That they aren't as skilled or capable of impacting the game in that area?

You seem to want to arbitrarily confine the discussion as it pertains to Fournette. Why is this? It seems like the more you evaluate the player, and not just confine him to the specific aspects you'd like to, he becomes a more impactful, complete, well-rounded, and more valuable player.

This won't fit your preconceived notion, so again, you're out to exclude context in order to fit that notion. Whether you like it or not, you're literally providing another example of confirmation bias in the same post where you're denying it.

I'm just curious...Do you see what you're doing here? Or are you unwilling to admit to the fact that you went overboard and are trying your best to be right instead of actually be objective? There's a huge difference between the two points in this discussion. I think I've made that apparent.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 11:01 am
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