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Taking care of players

Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Rant4days
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:23 pm
I wanted to get yalls opinions on this, because I don't believe players should be paid, but I think these guys should be taken care of health wise for the injuries they sustain playing for our schools, and schools should create a separate scholarship fund to allow players with career ending injuries to still finish up their education without affecting the 85 scholarship count. Part of why CFB is so great is that it offers kids who come from nothing to achieve the American Dream even if they aren't a 5- star NFL talent. As a conference we can/should do more. Please share your thoughts.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:24 pm to
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I wanted to get yalls opinions on this, because I don't believe players should be paid, but I think these guys should be taken care of health wise for the injuries they sustain playing for our schools, and schools should create a separate scholarship fund to allow players with career ending injuries to still finish up there education without affecting the 85 scholarship count. Part of why CFB is so great is that it offers kids who come from nothing to achieve the American Dream even if they aren't a 5- star NFL talent. As a conference we can/should do more. Please share your thoughts.


I think this already exists.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:24 pm to
This already happens.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68973 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:26 pm to
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but I think these guys should be taken care of health wise for the injuries they sustain playing for our schools, and schools should create a separate scholarship fund to allow players with career ending injuries to still finish up their education without affecting the 85 scholarship count.

this already happens. players get the best healthcare and doctors money can buy. and scholarships are definitely honored if a player suffers a career ending injury
Posted by Rant4days
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:26 pm to
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This already happens.


Yes, but we should do more.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68973 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:27 pm to
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Yes, but we should do more.

such as?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26444 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:28 pm to
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Yes, but we should do more.


Well the schools do what you proposed in the OP. What else should they do specifically?
Posted by Rant4days
Member since Jul 2015
35 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:29 pm to
Maybe I'm making the case of Autonomy, but I think there should be a conference wide fund to provide players healthcare for the extended future beyond when they're on the roster. Especially later in life if they sustain head/joint injuries.
Posted by Rant4days
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Scholarships are honored.


Not in all cases, though I will admit individual schools are getting better about it.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:31 pm to
Who hasn't had their scholarship honored?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68973 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Maybe I'm making the case of Autonomy, but I think there should be a conference wide fund to provide players healthcare for the extended future beyond when they're on the roster. Especially later in life if they sustain head/joint injuries.

where would all this money come from?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:33 pm to
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Not in all cases


They changed last year or the year before
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31192 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:34 pm to
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Maybe I'm making the case of Autonomy, but I think there should be a conference wide fund to provide players healthcare for the extended future beyond when they're on the roster. Especially later in life if they sustain head/joint injuries.
Why should the school provide extended healthcare for a player that sustained injuries even after he/she has earned their degree?

Once they've earned their degree on the school's dime, then they can get a job and provide their own healthcare.

i.e. For Bama, Tyrone Prothro.
Posted by 2smooth
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:35 pm to
Consider it done. I have forwarded your OP to the NCAA and they made it policy upon receipt and retroactive of course.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31192 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:36 pm to
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Scholarships are honored.
quote:

Not in all cases, though I will admit individual schools are getting better about it.
Name a player who had their scholarship pulled due to a serious/career ending injury. Medical scholarships exist for such athletes.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74030 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:37 pm to
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Who hasn't had their scholarship honored?


Only the people who have done something to not have it honored. No school is pulling scholarships from guys that go to class, don't screw up off the field, or are lazy at practice (eta: I mean are not lazy at practice, I couldn't figure out how to word this).

If a kid gets injured or just isn't as good as was thought, but is otherwise a good citizen, they get paid for until they graduate, at pretty much every school.

I know at LSU we've recently had some 4th year juniors that never actually saw the field, stop playing even with eligibility left, but they had already gotten their degrees. And I can't imagine any school would risk the PR nightmare that would come with doing things differently.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31192 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:41 pm to
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If a kid gets injured or just isn't as good as was thought, but is otherwise a good citizen, they get paid for until they graduate, at pretty much every school. I know at LSU we've recently had some 4th year juniors that never actually saw the field, stop playing even with eligibility left, but they had already gotten their degrees. And I can't imagine any school would risk the PR nightmare that would come with doing things differently.


+1

I'd like the OP to give an example of an athlete that had his scholarship pulled due to injury.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 2:47 pm to


Thank you for everything you've done to your bodies.
Posted by Rant4days
Member since Jul 2015
35 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 3:14 pm to
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Why should a school provide extended benefits after they have graduated?


Because College athletics is a business, and what is demanded of Athletes is more grueling both physically and schedule wise than a normal student. If you attend Bama as a student, the exchange between the two parties is education for money via tuition/fees. In the case of Athletes, they are providing a service to the University in exchange for education rather than exchanging money, but because athletes are asked to not only fulfill obligations on the academic end, but also be representatives outside of the classroom, and are also asked to potentially sustain long term PHYSICAL injuries on behalf of the University, (something that is not required by ordinary students), they should be compensated via benefits in the same way a chancellor, who serves as a spokesman, or a landscaper who may be injured on the job is compensated beyond their employment if they can no longer work. The NCAA has a narrative that athletes should be the same as normal students, but the reality is, what they contribute to the University via revenue, time, and public relations is beyond what a normal student is asked to do, in my option, they are not equal.
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