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re: 5 Reasons not to ban the confederate flag
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:01 pm to BrocraticMethod
Posted on 6/27/15 at 1:01 pm to BrocraticMethod
The civil war was not about slavery. It was about the federal government overstepping their bounds. Unfortunately, one of those issues was slavery but that was not the sole reason. If it was about slavery, why did Licoln wait until the end of the war to abolish slavery? He only used this as a bargaining chip to demoralize the South.
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Posted on 6/27/15 at 3:02 pm to Landmass
We can't ask the Southern political leadership why they seceded. But we can read the states' declarations of secession.
Here they are:
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I'll give you a summary: There's several things we aren't happy about, but the main thing is the Federal government is no longer protecting our property rights, specifically our slave property. They are misguided in conferring the rights of U.S. citizens to slaves. The Negro's natural place is in subservience to the White race. The federal government no longer serves or respects our most critical right, so we are seceding.
Look, it all sounds crazy in 2015. Alot of water under the bridge since then. But that's why they did it. They just could not imagine the kind of society we have now even barely functioning. Not that we don't have a good bit of social tension. They just didn't see it as a possible alternate.
Here they are:
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I'll give you a summary: There's several things we aren't happy about, but the main thing is the Federal government is no longer protecting our property rights, specifically our slave property. They are misguided in conferring the rights of U.S. citizens to slaves. The Negro's natural place is in subservience to the White race. The federal government no longer serves or respects our most critical right, so we are seceding.
Look, it all sounds crazy in 2015. Alot of water under the bridge since then. But that's why they did it. They just could not imagine the kind of society we have now even barely functioning. Not that we don't have a good bit of social tension. They just didn't see it as a possible alternate.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 3:34 pm to Landmass
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The civil war was not about slavery. It was about the federal government overstepping their bounds.
Again with the equivocations. Overstepping their bounds with what? You can only give a half-argument because once you peel back federalism rhetoric the core issue was still slavery. That the North had more cynical non-humanitarian reasons for wanting to stop it from spreading to Kansas and other new states doesn't change what it was really "about," so please spare us this foofoo semantics shite.
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f it was about slavery, why did Licoln wait until the end of the war to abolish slavery?
He was a cynical racist, but it's not a zero sum game with this.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 3:45 pm to Landmass
quote:on slavery
It was about the federal government overstepping their bounds.
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