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re: Do you consider student loans government hand-outs?

Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:58 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:58 am to
Investing in education isn't a bad thing. I know there are some militant neo-cons here, but the government is using a handout to give the lowest percentage point for a loan you can get, and good on them. Sure there is waste, and people default on the loan, but so what? In the grand scheme there are a lot bigger things for people to get all riled up over.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:01 am to
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Investing in education isn't a bad thing. I know there are some militant neo-cons here, but the government is using a handout to give the lowest percentage point for a loan you can get, and good on them. Sure there is waste, and people default on the loan, but so what? In the grand scheme there are a lot bigger things for people to get all riled up over.


This. We're far behind many first world nations when it comes to education today. Trying to help our population become more educated is not a bad thing.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69946 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:04 am to
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Investing in education isn't a bad thing. I know there are some militant neo-cons here, but the government is using a handout to give the lowest percentage point for a loan you can get, and good on them.



I see what you're saying, but how is it a handout if there's an expectation of repayment?


Forget the interest rate, a loan is still a loan.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:29 am to
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Investing in education isn't a bad thing.


I agree. I think a society's biggest responsibility is to educate its people. I would completely support tax payer funding of education through college.

The best way to minimize social and economic ills is via population control. The second best way is to educate everyone.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29040 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:47 am to
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Investing in education isn't a bad thing. I know there are some militant neo-cons here, but the government is using a handout to give the lowest percentage point for a loan you can get, and good on them. Sure there is waste, and people default on the loan, but so what? In the grand scheme there are a lot bigger things for people to get all riled up over.



i'm in this camp... while the idea of loan forgiveness pisses me off immensely. there are worse things. i worked 40+ hours a week and skipped meals because i didn't want to graduate with debt, so i made it happen. college wasn't fun for me as a result, but i have a degree despite that. so the pissed off part comes that i could have a bit easier go at college without the insane work weeks and foodless days, in juxtaposition with getting loans to be able to afford text books, meals, better housing, with the idea that the government waves off.

honestly, if anything, i'd rather we move student loans based on need to more of a handout than we do food stamps or or welfare checks.... with a minority or impoverished person getting an education or trade, we have a lot more possibility for a return on investment than we do other forms of welfare.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55520 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:59 pm to
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Investing in education isn't a bad thing.


Having guaranteed credit for anyone who applies is a terrible, terrible thing that leads to inflated cost. Take a look at how quickly tuition rates ran away from inflation and real wages starting in the 80's after the DoEd was founded.
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