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re: Ted Cruz announces candidacy.

Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:48 pm to
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Why would you ever want a president to fights against gay marriage and opposes "feminism," as if there is only one form of feminism. I have yet to hear any kind of reasonable argument against gay marriage. I don't understand why anyone would oppose it.


You don't want a president who fights "feminism." You do want a president who stands for liberty and avoids the government meddling in the business world based on lies (see gender pay inequality).

The gay marriage argument has gone round the bend. Marriage is for the propagation of the species physically and socially. This is best accomplished with a father and a mother. None of that is really the purview of the government. There has never existed a universal right to marriage.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35646 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:10 pm to
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There has never existed a universal right to marriage


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Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,"


-Chief Justice Earl Warren from the opinion striking down interracial marriage bans in Loving v Virginia.

Not a universal right, but it seems to me you need a pretty compelling reason to not allow two people to marry based on that language.

It's a pointless battle for the right. If you are to take the plank of freedom, you have to champion the freedom of people to do stuff you find icky as long as it doesn't violate someone else's rights.

Eh, that's just my humble opinion.

Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 10:46 pm to
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The gay marriage argument has gone round the bend. Marriage is for the propagation of the species physically and socially. This is best accomplished with a father and a mother. None of that is really the purview of the government. There has never existed a universal right to marriage.


Ah. But it is under the purview of the govt as it is now. They got themselves in the marriage business. I agree that govt shouldn't have anything to do with marriage, and only recognize civil unions, which could be any two or more people in a particular living arrangement. But since they are, there's no reason they should deny gay marriage. Your argument does not prove that GM is a negative, only that is does not propitiate the species. Well, neither does old people marriage.
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