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re: I want God to be real.

Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:07 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:07 am to
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If one is claiming that the universe was created from nothing by nothing, then the burden of proof is to offer evidence that such a creative occurrence is a natural occurrence.

Contrarily, if one is claiming that the universe was created by a natural occurrence from something, then the burden of proof would be to identify the natural source for the something from which the universe was created.

Anything less would be introducing supernatural creation.


First, I never said it happened that way. I was illustrating the absurdity of claiming the universe must exist due to a supernatural cause. The fact is that you believe it has a supernatural cause, and that there is no other possible explanation, because you lack both the desire and the knowledge to believe anything else.

Second, and this goes back to you lacking the knowledge most likely due to a lack of pursuit for obvious reasons, there are widely held ideas in the field of astrophysics about "nothing coming from nothing" as an explanation for existence.

In what I believe is a futile attempt to educate, I offer you this:

LINK
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:12 am to
Kevin Steele is a better hire than Chavis.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15353 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:17 am to
I heard God's Not Dead. I read it on the internet.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
7959 posts
Posted on 1/19/15 at 12:23 am to
Finally, Kraus appears with his laughable 'nothing' view. You do realize that Krauss isn't offering "nothing" don't you?

Krauss book review


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First, I never said it happened that way. I was illustrating the absurdity of claiming the universe must exist due to a supernatural cause. The fact is that you believe it has a supernatural cause, and that there is no other possible explanation, because you lack both the desire and the knowledge to believe anything else.


All you have to do is offer an example of a naturalistic mechanism creating that from which the universe was created. Nothing within the naturalistic world can do such a thing.

Again, this isn't about something creating something from nothing, which is in itself a supernatural view, this is one step further.....it's about nothing creating something from nothing.


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