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re: 18 years of fraud at Chapel Hill...

Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:58 pm to
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Give me one. I'm open to other examples.


Kentucky basketball 52/53

ULaLa basketball 73/74 and 74/75

Moorhouse College soccer 2004 and 2005

MacMurray College tennis 2005/06 and 2006/07

University of San Fran and Tulane both imposed self death penalties in 1982 and 1985

every situation is different as is the fallout


The SWC was already dying for a wide variety of reasons when SMU got popped. Texas had already started to look towards the Pac 12 and once A&M and Arkansas got word of that they started talking to the SEC.

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They wouldn't have a choice if UVA and Duke wanted a piece of the B1G TV deal.


Again, ESPN is not going to let the ACC fall apart or lose any more members to the Big 10 when they have such a huge investment in them. Losing teams to the Big 10 means they lose them to competitor FOX which they are going to move against. The ACC will get a full on network like the SECN before ESPN lets it collapse.

This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25901 posts
Posted on 1/5/15 at 4:04 pm to
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Kentucky basketball 52/53

ULaLa basketball 73/74 and 74/75

Moorhouse College soccer 2004 and 2005

MacMurray College tennis 2005/06 and 2006/07

University of San Fran and Tulane both imposed self death penalties in 1982 and 1985

every situation is different as is the fallout

Agreed that they're all different. The UNC fallout would be massive. Not sure how you could argue that.
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The SWC was already dying when SMU got popped for a wide variety of reasons. Texas had already started to look towards the Pac 12 and once A&M and Arkansas got word of that they started talking to the SEC.

Agreed, but I don't think the ACC is as stable as you do at the moment, clearly.
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Again, ESPN is not going to let the ACC fall apart or lose any more members to the Big 10 when they have such a huge investment in them. Losing teams to the Big 10 means they lose them to competitor FOX which they are going to move against. The ACC will get a full on network like the SECN before ESPN lets it collapse.

I suppose this is possible, but at some point it isn't worth it for ESPN to support them, especially if Fox sweetens the deal to get into the VA and NC market. I'm sure ESPN has an out if schools were to leave. This is all hypothetical, if course.
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Again, ESPN is not going to let the ACC fall apart or lose any more members to the Big 10 when they have such a huge investment in them. Losing teams to the Big 10 means they lose them to competitor FOX which they are going to move against. The ACC will get a full on network like the SECN before ESPN lets it collapse.

I would say that this would be the reason nothing would happen to UNC. NCAA is a business in NPO clothing. ESPN helps make them cash. Vis-a-vis UNC helps make them cash.

And yes, also Miami not being punished and Penn State getting leniency all points to UNC moving on with it's self-imposed punishments in academics (quite a bit) and athletics (not so much). Think of the fallout from people if they hammer UNC, but let a pedophile-protecting program have its reductions in punishment
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