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re: Bookmark : Stanford, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan St, and Minnesota fear SEC venues?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:33 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:33 pm to Cheese Grits
The PCC. I'm fairly versed in what went down with it and what happened with the break up and AAWU
quote:did they get the full force of it all? Yea. But schools like Baylor, TCU, a&m, even rice, etc where getting caught. Hell multiple programs would be on probation at the same time. What I'm getting at is why does it make sense to not count any of the wins that the PCC had over other conferences but its ok for the SWC to do so when the SWC was the PCC on steroids? Or the SEC when it has had its fair share of run ins with the NCAA
Remember, for all the stuff happening in the SWC, it was the small, private school, who had to fall on the sword for everybody else.
quote:yep. And you had public officials, like the governor of Texas, in it as well
The dumbassery of the SWC was that it was all out in the public
quote:yea probably. But I think the fact that it all went down 55 years ago might have something to do with that as well
PAC covered the tracks so well most folks are not even aware there was a PCC.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:36 pm
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:57 pm to WestCoastAg
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What I'm getting at is why does it make sense to not count any of the wins that the PCC had over other conferences but its ok for the SWC to do so when the SWC was the PCC on steroids?
Again, even if the PCC gets to keep all the wins, should they accrue to pad the PAC stats?
Yes or No
If you disband a conference, should those trophies accrue to brand new conference?
Yes or No
Comparing PCC and SWC are not exactly the same. SWC broke up and the schools scattered to the wind. PCC broke up and all the bad apples reformed into the same basic conference.
PCC schools - Idaho = whitewashed AAWU
vs
SWC schools
Arkansas = SEC
Texas A&M = SEC via B12
Rice, SMU, and TCU = WAC
Houston = CUSA
Baylor, Texas, and Texas Tech = B12
Death penalty certainly killed SMU, but killing off the SWC and not allowing it to form again is a whole different outcome. If some of the smaller and / or private TX schools had been large public flagship universities there is no doubt they would have followed the PCC model and become SWC II with the same basic schools.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:02 pm to WestCoastAg
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I think the fact that it all went down 55 years ago might have something to do with that as well
In the age of 24 / 7 / 365 all access, I have no doubt it would have been different that long ago. We can at least agree on this point.
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