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re: Is Kevin Sumlin best in the SEC at QB development?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:55 am to PharmacistReb
Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:55 am to PharmacistReb
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Who has Sumlin actually convinced to sign with his team? Keenum? And then going further back?
Sam Bradford.
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:58 am to NickSabanRules
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The point is, QB development, with guys nobody thought much of as QB's coming out of HS. If Sumlin does it again this year, he will have made a strong case for being the best in College for QB development.
Was also the OC for a three star out of Putnam City North. That three star may or may not have won the Heisman. Who has a bigger hand in QB development, the head coach or the OC?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:16 am to tigerfan4120
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:31 am to TeLeFaWx
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Who has a bigger hand in QB development, the head coach or the OC?
Guess we'll see, as far as Sumlin is concerned. Kingsbury was the QB coach with him from 2010 through 2012.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:37 am to NickSabanRules
Kingsbury was Sumlins video technician at first. People act like Kingsbury came to Sumlin as fully-formed OC.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:40 am to PharmacistReb
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Keenum would have been dynamite with or without Sumlin.
“I’m not where I am in this game without Kevin Sumlin" - Case Keenum
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:44 am to Cooter Davenport
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Can someone give me some information regarding Sumlin. Which QBs was he directly involved in recruiting during his collegiate career. I realize Manziel was a Sherman signee. Who has Sumlin actually convinced to sign with his team? Keenum? And then going further back?
Again, how does this relate to developing a QB?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:45 am to tigerfan4120
Sumlin has coached Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees, Jason White, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum and Johnny Manziel.
That's not just luck. No one is that lucky. If that's luck then Sumlin doesn't need to coach, he can just go buy Powerball tickets. Fact is, the guy is a very talented coach.
That's not just luck. No one is that lucky. If that's luck then Sumlin doesn't need to coach, he can just go buy Powerball tickets. Fact is, the guy is a very talented coach.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:50 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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kinda hard to retain the name Johnny fricking Football when you were just named second string for the Browns
Harry, get your head in the game...we aren't talking about JFF
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:54 am to tylerdurden24
I'd argue Malzahn due to his qbs nfl success
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:57 am to Cooter Davenport
He was actually the WR and TE coach at Purdue and OU, respectively.. The only QB's you should mention with Sumlin are Keenum and Manziel.
For me, the jury is still out on Sumlin. Going 8-4 before Duke last year with JFF, Evans, Matthews was quite a disappointment. The past two stops, he's inherited his talent and I'm pretty interested to see how he does this year with more of his own guys.
I'm sure none of that made sense to Aggies and I'm about to get berated.
For me, the jury is still out on Sumlin. Going 8-4 before Duke last year with JFF, Evans, Matthews was quite a disappointment. The past two stops, he's inherited his talent and I'm pretty interested to see how he does this year with more of his own guys.
I'm sure none of that made sense to Aggies and I'm about to get berated.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:57 am to NickSabanRules
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The point is, QB development, with guys nobody thought much of as QB's coming out of HS. If Sumlin does it again this year, he will have made a strong case for being the best in College for QB development.
this is where FANS get confused, Listen up, the level at which the team you cheer for plays at has no direct relation to the football knowledge of said fan. Same could be said for the fan that has much knowledge about the game of football but the team he cheers for sucks balls. That is all carry on with the idiocy of this thread.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:02 am to NickSabanRules
He is the best at designing a system that can produce monstrous numbers with almost any decently talented QB. Far as QB development, absolutely not. Manziel is still trying to get used to the huddle, some drops, and and other things that should be basic for a rookie QB in the NFL.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:04 am to ozzy
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He was actually the WR and TE coach at Purdue and OU, respectively.. The only QB's you should mention with Sumlin are Keenum and Manziel.
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:05 am to Cooter Davenport
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Sumlin has coached Drew Bledsoe, Drew Brees, Jason White, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum and Johnny Manziel.
And Rosenbach too correct? I know he Qb'd with arizona cardinals for a season or two. I'd say he's been pretty fortunate with those talents but while at Houston I saw what he did with a freshamn QB David Piland. But this being the rant, nobody is going to give credit where it's due. I always looked forward to his call in show on 1560. The guy can coach IMO. He knows how to put the qb and receivers in positions to make plays.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:05 am to PharmacistReb
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He is the best at designing a system that can produce monstrous numbers with almost any decently talented QB. Far as QB development, absolutely not. Manziel is still trying to get used to the huddle, some drops, and and other things that should be basic for a rookie QB in the NFL.
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:14 am to PharmacistReb
Want to know why Kenny Hill or Kyle Allen — or both — will be successful directing the Aggies’ offense this fall? Because Sumlin did it with Manziel.
He did it with Keenum before him and Sam Bradford at Oklahoma before him.
Kevin Sumlin's track record points to continued success without Johnny Manziel
He did it with Keenum before him and Sam Bradford at Oklahoma before him.
Kevin Sumlin's track record points to continued success without Johnny Manziel
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:24 am to NickSabanRules
quote:Josh Heupel was the QB coach when Sumlin was Oklahoma with Bradford. Kevin Wilson was the OC.
Sam Bradford at Oklahoma before him
Dameyune Craig has the exact same title as Sumlin had when he was at Oklahoma when Bradford played.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:40 am to joeyb147
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Josh Heupel was the QB coach when Sumlin was Oklahoma with Bradford. Kevin Wilson was the OC.
Sumlin was co-offensive coordinator.
Look, you all can try to poke holes in his ability as a head coach and developer, but FACT is, he has never finished below 13th in the nation in total offense. How do you explain that?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:46 am to aggiegreg93
quote:Yeah, and Dameyune Craig is the co-offensive coordinator at Auburn right now.
Sumlin was co-offensive coordinator.
Exactly what responsibility do you think he had as the co-OC/WR coach? You think he was the one calling plays at OU?
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