re: OT: Freshman bars

I mean at the end of the day do what you want. Honestly nobody cares if you're in one or what one you're in after about a year in a half. Go wherever you feel like you fit in. I think I've told you before but I've met happy people in lower ranked ones and some people who obviously don't fit in the old row ones.

But if you're motive is to join the ones with the most respect on campus(especially from sorority girls) I'd consider somewhere else. Unless a lot has changed quickly, they were a complete afterthought when I started. Not even looked at as bottom teir, really not even considered when talking about those.

That said I don't know that much anymore and who knows they could be cool