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re: Georgia fans, is this how the Nick Marshall recruitment really played out?

Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:55 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:55 am to
I dont think anyone can honestly dispute his arm strength...just that nobody know where it will go...but it will go far!
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:56 am to
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He can't throw




what are you talking about, he is a surgeon with the ball. look at that skill, bouncing it right off the defender.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:57 am to
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Murray said marshall's arm was stronger than any hes ever seen, and hes been to alot of camps. He said this prior to last season.
He can chunk it a country mile, I know that much.

In one of his Junior College tapes, he threw it 72-73 yards on the run and placed it perfectly down field.
Posted by ThreauxDown11
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:57 am to
We'll never know. And I could care less if some backup DB stole money from someone else on your team or even a backup QB. He would still be a backup at Georgia if he was still on the team playing QB, that was my point. He can't make the throws consistently enough to earn that in Georgia's offense IMO. It's a credit to GM that he's able to take someone with so little talent throwing the ball and make a productive offense. NM is not what is winning y'all games. GM's brain is winning games for Auburn.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:58 am to
did you actually watch Shockley play QB?... dude was an average passer with good mobility and armstrength... he's like the North GA version of Nick Marshall.

don't think he was even drafted after winning the SEC championship... probably just like Nick.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:58 am to
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ThreauxDown11
If Jacob Coker and Nick Marshall can't throw, what do you have to say about Brandon Harris and Anthony Jennings?
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 10:59 am to
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And I could care less if some backup DB stole money


Exactly how much less could you care?

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He would still be a backup at Georgia if he was still on the team playing QB, that was my point.


But that's not true, he'd still have been kicked out and would still be at auburn.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:02 am to
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If he would have went to Georgia as a QB no one, but Georgia fans would know this kids name. He can't throw.


Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:02 am to
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he's like the North GA version of Nick Marshall.


With more between the ears.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:02 am to
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he is a surgeon with the ball.


Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:02 am to
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did you actually watch Shockley play QB?.


Nah just seen some highlight vids on youtube. Can you tell me more?

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dude was an average passer with good mobility and armstrength... he's like the North GA version of Nick Marshall


Did YOU watch him play? He was a very good thrower that could also run when needed. Unlike Marshall, who is an excellent runner that will have to throw occasionally.

NM '13- 142/239, 1976 yards, 14/6
DJ '05- 173/310, 2588 yards, 24/5

And he was drafted btw. He also broke a UGA passing record in his first career game as a starter. If you think he was just an average thrower, you obviously didn't watch him at all.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:04 am
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:03 am to
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But that's not true, he'd still have been kicked out and would still be at auburn.



I could be wrong but I think he's saying if he didn't steal money and if he were playing QB at UGA, he'd be buried in the depth chart. Which is accurate.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:03 am to
career 54% passer... really lit it up...
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:04 am to
you are all sorts of dumbass, or trolling. Don't know which, don't care. You don't throw for 24/5 and win SEC POY if you can't pass.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:05 am to
MOAR!!!

Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:05 am to
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He can throw far. He can't throw accurately.


59.4% completion percentage.

That ain't Peyton Manning deadly, but it sure as hell ain't INACCURATE.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:06 am to
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he's like the North GA version of Nick Marshall.


I dont think Nick has much of a career in radio.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:10 am to
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That ain't Peyton Manning deadly, but it sure as hell ain't INACCURATE.


If we really wanted to split hairs, we could apply the same logic to marshall as we do to darren mcfadden's passing stats.

People are focused first and foremost on stopping AU's run game. Not just the RBs, but obviously marshall as well. NM averaged what..something like 17 throws a game? If your starting QB is averaging throwing the ball only 4 times per quarter, teams probably aren't going to be very focused on taking that element away. A lot of NM's success as a passer, in my opinion, is due to teams not expecting him to throw. Granted, he still has to make the throws of course, but a 59% completion for marshall isn't quite as impressive as if he were a pro-style guy throwing it 30 times a game.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:11 am to
you're missing my point... shockley was very good in UGA's 2005 offense... imo, NM would have similar results if put in a similar situation... maybe not to the tune of 24/5, but he would be very successful. marshall wouldn't be able to overthrow leornard pope.

i guess the question is, was it the offense that made Shockley a 'drop back passer'... or his skillset?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:13 am to
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NM averaged what..something like 17 throws a game?


18.4

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Granted, he still has to make the throws of course, but a 59% completion for marshall isn't quite as impressive as if he were a pro-style guy throwing it 30 times a game.


I would think it would be more impressive because you have less room for error. If you only throw it 4.5 times a quarter, you better make then count.
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