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re: Georgia fans, is this how the Nick Marshall recruitment really played out?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:13 am to ThreauxDown11
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:13 am to ThreauxDown11
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If he would have went to Georgia as a QB no one, but Georgia fans would know this kids name. He can't throw. He works in Gus's system. Richt's system would not exploit what he does well.
+1 and there is nothing for AU fans to get all huff puffy about. That's your system and it works.
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:14 am to WG_Dawg
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If we really wanted to split hairs, we could apply the same logic to marshall as we do to darren mcfadden's passing stats.
People are focused first and foremost on stopping AU's run game. Not just the RBs, but obviously marshall as well. NM averaged what..something like 17 throws a game? If your starting QB is averaging throwing the ball only 4 times per quarter, teams probably aren't going to be very focused on taking that element away. A lot of NM's success as a passer, in my opinion, is due to teams not expecting him to throw. Granted, he still has to make the throws of course, but a 59% completion for marshall isn't quite as impressive as if he were a pro-style guy throwing it 30 times a game.
Nothing you said above is untrue. And I agree with it all.
But none of it indicates that Nick Marshall is NOT an accurate passer. If you complete right at 60% of the passes you throw, you are reasonably accurate. He can only attempt the throws he's allowed to attempt.
Oh, wait... one disagreement. Comparing Marshall's passing stats to McFadden's passing stats is knocking on the door of preposterous.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:14 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:16 am to TTsTowel
Yes, this is how it went. DB was actually Marshall's idea because he thought he had a better shot at the NFL as a DB. He was right.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:16 am to lowspark12
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imo, NM would have similar results if put in a similar situation... maybe not to the tune of 24/5, but he would be very successful
Slightly disagree, because he is not the QB that we play in our system. NM is thriving right now because he has the absolute perfect OC/Head coach/system for his skillset.
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i guess the question is, was it the offense that made Shockley a 'drop back passer'... or his skillset?
His skillset...we didn't change him to fit our system. We recruited him because he was a top 3 QB and top 10ish player in America as a QB. He was always a pro-style QB, he just happened to have some scrambling ability as well.
I'd guess upwards of 80% of the runs DJ had in his career were scrambling/getting away from pressure. We had very, very few designed run plays that we actually ran with DJ.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:17 am to WG_Dawg
DJ and Coach Craig are better comparisons. Coach Craig ran when he had to but was a drop pback passer.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:17 am to TTsTowel
They also took Logan Gray over Cam Newton.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:20 am to beatbammer
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Comparing Marshall's passing stats to McFadden's passing stats is knocking on the door of preposterous
I wasn't comparing their stats, I was comparing the logic behind them. Both of those players benefit from having the passing stats they do because defenses are not expecting them to throw it often. Which leads to more people being open, looser coverage, etc.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:20 am to parkjas2001
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DJ and Coach Craig are better comparisons. Coach Craig ran when he had to but was a drop pback passer
good comparison.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:22 am to Korin
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They also took Logan Gray over Cam Newton.
Gray might be the best fair catcher in SEC history
That's not really a similar situation though, seeing as we did get Marshall
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:23 am to parkjas2001
Laughing are you. Do you think the kid is going to get drafted? If so what round?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:24 am to Korin
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They also took Logan Gray over Cam Newton
He was the gatorade POY in missouri coming out of high school with offers from Nebraska, Auburn, Cal, A&M, and other big schools.
Oooooohhhh but I forgot, this is hindsight day where we take facts that are known now and pretend that everyone knew them 7 years ago.
I bet UF would kill to have Logan Gray on your roster right now, certainly couldn't make your offense any worse.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:24 am to BlackPawnMartyr
He'll get drafted. He's still got 3 years to develop and unlike McCarron he's actually very athletic.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:25 am to BlackPawnMartyr
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Laughing are you
Your comments are funny.
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Do you think the kid is going to get drafted?
not as a QB...too small.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:25 am to WG_Dawg
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Georgia made a mistake by taking bust Christian LeMay first,
No we didn't. Hindsight is always 20/20, at the time it was by far the right move. Tech wanted him so bad because he was better suited to run their offense. Lemay was an absolute beast in HS. His junior year he threw 44 Tds and only 2 interceptions. It's easy NOW to say it was a mistake, but at the time it wasn't. Plus, he also had plenty of talent as a DB, and played some sparingly his freshman year.
Not really. After Lemay got in trouble and didn't play his Senior year, the handwriting was on the wall. We should have withdrawn his scholarship and recruited Marshall as our primary QB prospect. But yea, hineysight as I call is always 20/20. But honestly, I doubt it would have made a difference in the behavior that led to Marshall's departure. Would have freed up a scholarship though.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:26 am to davesdawgs
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After Lemay got in trouble and didn't play his Senior year, the handwriting was on the wall. We should have withdrawn his scholarship
ding ding ding
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:27 am to parkjas2001
Do y'all even know what LeMay got in trouble for?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:28 am to Hardy_Har
quote:wut?
3 years to develop
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:29 am to davesdawgs
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After Lemay got in trouble and didn't play his Senior year, the handwriting was on the wall
What handwriting? It's only easy to say that now because we know he's a bust. He didn't lose all his natural athletic ability and talent by sitting out a year. Sure he was probably rusty, but he didn't forget how to throw a ball or play the position by not playing in 11 games as an 18 year old.
He never played for us because a)we've had much, much better talent ahead of him at QB and b)he, like I said along with thousands of others, simply didn't pan out. It's recruiting, it happens.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 11:29 am to Crowknowsbest
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Do y'all even know what LeMay got in trouble for?
yes.
Pretty much the same thing michael grant got in trouble for and had to transfer from South to Meadowcreek.
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