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re: Do you believe in Evolution?

Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:30 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:30 am to
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Except that God is under no obligation to keep us from suffering.


Of course he isn't, but a benevolent God is by definition.

God may very well exist, and I have no issues with the idea of his existence, but if he does exist and he created us in any capacity than any beliefs about morality that we hold are either directly or indirectly because of him. Because of this, we must assume that God either does not care what happens to us as individuals, that his morality matches ours but he is simply incapable of helping us or that he is malevolent in nature.

A benevolent God who is also all-powerful creating benevolent beings in an inherently malevolent universe is a contradiction not logically resolvable by human consciousness.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 12:32 am
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9712 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:36 am to
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God may very well exist, and I have no issues with the idea of his existence, but if he does exist and he created us in any capacity than any beliefs about morality that we hold are either directly or indirectly because of him. Because of this, we must assume that God either does not care what happens to us as individuals, that his morality matches ours but he is simply incapable of helping us or that he is malevolent in nature.

A benevolent God who is also all-powerful creating benevolent beings in an inherently malevolent universe is a contradiction not logically resolvable by human consciousness.



Very good stuff man. I feel like I need to write this down.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:36 am to
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Of course he isn't, but a benevolent God is by definition.



But with the free will we were given we threw away the world without suffering. He is benevolent but also just. The world is fallen and God has to let it be that way, humans picked it. God gave us a way to get back to a perfect creation though-The sacrifice of His Son.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
4956 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 12:36 am to
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A benevolent God who is also all-powerful creating benevolent beings in an inherently malevolent universe is a contradiction not logically resolvable by human consciousness



I have no problem with this statement….and it's more eloquently worded than anything I could've written.
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